Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Technology Stocks : MRV Communications (MRVC) opinions? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: cmg who wrote (36145)	10/7/2001 9:01:14 AM
From: Dee Jay	Respond to of 42804

very well put...an eye-opener. I think most Americans who might have thought that way have revised their opinions drastically since the morning of 09/11/01. Dee Jay

To: cmg who wrote (36145)	10/7/2001 11:04:50 AM
From: James Calladine	Respond to of 42804

CMG, That was brutally frank! And very nicely put. And it brings us right into the next question: "What is really going on in relations amongst countries?" And I think that can be answered very simply, for pretty much EVERY country, (perhaps exempting Iceland, Greenland) It is: 1) Protect & enhance our COMMERCIAL INTERESTS 2) Promote OUR VIEW of the world (movies, tv, books etc) 3) Protect our CITIZENS and do this using two main tools 1) the carrot 2) the stick and one support tool: -- "moral" justification of "our" position (through our commercially-controlled communications vehicles) Some countries don't have a lot to offer in the carrot category, so they concentrate on RECEIVING carrots, because they would prefer that to the stick. But they usually don't like being in this dependent condition. Most countries don't have their own "stick" industries so even for their own "defence" needs they have to be friendly with one or other of the big-stick countries, which I think are: -- USA -- Soviet Republics (pretty shaky group) -- Britain & France -- China (upcoming) Then again there is the "Nuclear Club" which includes such disparate countries as: -- Israel -- Pakistan -- India and a variety of others (I don't know who exactly). That adds a certain "wild-card" quality to the drama. The primary purposes of all of this are the GROWTH (for the nation-state and its enterprises and citizens) of: -- MONEY -- POWER All this might work out modestly acceptably if all of the "nation-players" came to the table prepared to use the same deck of cards. But they don't, for the simple reason that the distribution of RESOURCES amongst countries is drastically skewed. The HAVES really do have, and the DON'T-HAVES really don't. That all this does NOT work anymore, and WILL NOT work anymore is signalled by the horrible events of September 11. At the risk of enhancing my position in the IGNORE sweepstakes even more, I will say that WHATEVER we (and others) do has to be oriented to the equation: COOPERATION + TOLERANCE = PEACE Otherwise, it is just a continuation of the present madness, which EVERYONE (including us) is doing. Namaste! Jim

To: cmg who wrote (36145)	10/7/2001 1:10:51 PM
From: Sector Investor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42804

<<You must admit; it is confusing>> Yes - and inconsistent as well. In regard to terrorism, we had never walked in Israel's shoes or lived with their realities. We were naive. We were asleep. We got burned. We are waking up. We are not fully awake yet. Many things have to change. Some things will be easy, just expensive - the things that money can solve. Others will be difficult. We talk about not wanting to give up some personal liberties - to live our lives and move freely anywhere in the country unnoticed and without hassle. Unfortunately, so can others - people who want to kill us, or do us other forms of harm. Is it really so much to give up to have to show who you are and have bags checked when you move around in the country? Maybe to terrorists and criminals, but do we REALLY want them moving freely amongst the rest of us? I, for one would not mind carrying an ID card with absolute proof of identity to show when needed. We are now responding - the first military actions in a long war. There WILL be more terrorist acts. We MUST be willing to make minor sacrifices to save the lives of citizens.

To: cmg who wrote (36145)	10/7/2001 8:05:06 PM
From: Sector Investor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42804

New CW Test results PDF on the MRV website. mrv.com Aranea had claimed an awesome 384Mpps in their literature. Aranea supports 64 OC-48 ports (32 upper and 32 lower). These numbers are much higher than any other vendor's capabilities. Typically vendor's numbers are for the smallest (40 byte) packets. 384M / 64 ports = 6Mpps per port. In this test 32 OC-48 fully loaded ports were tested with a throughput of 6.1Mpps per port, GREATER THAN CLAIMED. Look at these comments! Page 4 "The jitter on the Aranea-1 averaged about 39 micro seconds (transmitting a 2% voice stream). It should be noted that products previously tested have failed this test with results observed HUNDREDS OF TIMES WORSE MEASURED IN MILLISECONDS." "In assessing the percent of packets arriving out of sequence, we found that the Aranea-1 has NO out of sequence errors that were not otherwise attributed to dropped packet in the low-priority packet streams. However, in previous studies packet sequence errors from 27% up to 95% on competitive products we've tested. Page 5 "The Aranea-1 forwarded 40-byte packets on all 200,000 routes in about 45 seconds, while under full load. Other Gigabit routers tested recently by Miecom could not reach the BGP learning rate even after seven minutes when under a full load. Page 6 "Based on Miercom's experience testing VoIP equipment, we conclude that the cumulative effect of high latency, jitter and sequence errors on VoIP traffic is detrimental, introducing SEVERE NETWORK PROBLEMS. Performance testing conducted recently by Miercom demonstrated that the Charlotte's Web Networks Aranea-1 Gigabit core router prioritized traffic (consisting of 32-Kbps and 64-Kbps voice streams and three VoIP streams) WITHOUT PACKET LOSS OR SEQUENCE ERRORS, AND WITH TIGHT JITTER CONTROL, EVEN DURING CONJESTION."