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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (3251)	10/7/2001 3:05:17 PM
From: LTK007	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

hope all caught the Osama bin Laden speech--i am sure it will be rerun much.Chilling,the absolute conviction--if his absolute conviction spreads into others on an increasing basis---this will indeed be a prolonged business.Not a statement it will be the case,but have it on the table.Max

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (3251)	10/7/2001 3:36:20 PM
From: BirdDog	Respond to of 281500

...(I'm not sure if it was Mullah Omar himself or not). ... He's easy to spot... He's the one with the eye patch. On the other response to this post... You didn't notice Osama with a much different attitude? Looked scared and disturbed to me...not much conviction at all from what I saw. BirdDog@goshdarnwantedtosayeyepatchanddiaper...com

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (3251)	10/7/2001 4:01:00 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

After calling the Islamic world to jihad, he added something I thought interesting, "we will not allow in Palestine what happened in Spain". Same thing Saddam Hussein tried, but failed to achieve... Namely to spread the conflict. Again, I don't know too many of Israel's neighbors willing to risk nuclear annihilation on behalf of the Palestinians. However, I do see the level of domestic violence inside of this states rising as a response. Hawk

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (3251)	10/7/2001 6:52:09 PM
From: BigBull	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Guess he just met Mr. Martel? eom

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (3251)	10/7/2001 9:28:37 PM
From: Tom Clarke	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

These guys have long memories. Here's a paragraph from an article by Christopher Hitchens. There are others who mourn September 11 because it was on that day in 1683 that the hitherto unstoppable armies of Islam were defeated by a Polish general outside the gates of Vienna. The date marks the closest that proselytizing Islam ever came to making itself a superpower by military conquest. From then on, the Muslim civilization, which once had so much to teach the Christian West, went into a protracted eclipse. I cannot of course be certain, but I think it is highly probable that this is the date that certain antimodernist forces want us to remember as painfully as they do. And if I am right, then it's not even facile or superficial to connect the recent aggression against American civil society with any current "human rights issue." thenation.com