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To: kodiak_bull who wrote (9125)10/7/2001 4:21:12 PM
From: Second_Titan  Respond to of 23153
 
What more I.D.'s? One of the talk shows had an ACLU or some other group rep. commenting that it was foolish to think additional ID's would be effective as they can just be made counterfeit.

Also they are concerned about the legal rights of illegal aliens, that they should not be detained indefinitely.

I dont know how many more US citizens or innocent people need to be slaughtered on US soil before we get control of our borders and deport illegal aliens. The same goes for being able to prevent legal or illegal entry by undesirable people.



To: kodiak_bull who wrote (9125)10/7/2001 5:20:56 PM
From: chowder  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 23153
 
With attacks under way in Afghanistan, I suppose we should be mentally prepared to start hearing about terrorist retaliation in this country.

I believe the prognosticators were predicting a 100% chance of further terrorist attacks.

Bin Laden, taped earlier and shown on television today, swears by Allah that we shall have no peace, that we shall have to live in terror.

The cards are dealt, let's see what they show.

dabum



To: kodiak_bull who wrote (9125)10/7/2001 5:47:16 PM
From: Dale Baker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 23153
 
FWIW, European airports have had armed police and military walking around for years - and not had virtually any terrorist incidents despite the lack of ID checks like you suggest. Their airport security staff also tends to be better trained and sharper (just my biased view) than those I see at US airports.

One more, most international flights match luggage against passengers routinely. The US will have to adopt that practice permanently.

I vote to keep the armed guys in airports indefinitely - since we have seen how much damage a crime originating at an airport can cause. I would happily pay $5-10 extra per flight to cover all security costs too.



To: kodiak_bull who wrote (9125)10/7/2001 8:33:15 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 23153
 
Sebastian Junger Under Fire

nationalgeographic.com

The author of 'The Perfect Storm' recently went to Afghanistan and met with the leader of the Northern Alliance (Ahmad Shah Massoud) and has created an amazing documentary that I saw highlights of...It should be on MCNBC or the National Geographic TV Station soon. I only wish The U.S. had more actively supported Massoud's Anti-Taliban efforts more aggressively earlier this year...He was after Bin Laden and his network but lacked the support he really needed...In August in a meeting in Paris he warned The U.S. that some massive terrorist acts could come to our country -- he had a hunch that Bin Laden and his network were planning something big (yet, he didn't know the details). Unfortunately, Bin Laden affiliates assasinated Massoud 2 days before they launched the massive September 11th strike against the U.S. I hope we now are ready and willing to partner effectively with the Northern Alliance and use Special Forces to decisively and surgically eliminate Bin Laden AND all of his key lieutenants. I pray for our troops as they launch a big offensive. Yet, we must go beyond the military action and work to de-legitimize terrorism and help the people in Afghanistan rebuild and develop a more stable and free government. The other terrorist cells in dozens of countries around the world will also need to be dealt with...The new global war on terrorism is almost like the cold war -- lets hope it won't last as long though.

Everyone should say prayers tonight for our leaders, our troops, and for the coalition as it moves into a new phase of activities. The world will never be the same again after what's happened in September of 2001.

Best Regards,

Scott



To: kodiak_bull who wrote (9125)10/7/2001 9:50:52 PM
From: JungleInvestor  Respond to of 23153
 
kb, excellent thoughts on additional, smart security measures. For the time being, it is probably a good idea to have the national guard at airports. Word coming from our government is that there is almost a 100% probability of more terrorists attacks when we attack, which means as of today, watch out. We have not had airports attacked yet, but airports in Europe have been attacked.

I would go well beyond your identification card for obtaining plane tickets. IMO, we should have a national identification card. Costa Rica has this system and it bothers no one - it is part of life. The card is used for almost everything you can think of: registering for college, obtaining a drivers license, getting a gun permit, insurance applications, any government or legal procedures, applying for a credit card or job or phone service, opening a bank account, etc, etc. There will be plenty of people who would complain about big brother watching, but the benefits would greatly outweigh any inconveniences - especially now that everyone is acutely aware of the terrorist threat. Besides being used to track potential terrorists using analysis techniques similar to what you described (e.g., checking on people who rent crop dusters or get harzard waste transportation licenses), it would help in many other ways - crack down on illegal immigration (job applicant would need the card), catch people who avoid paying income tax, reduce fraud in welfare, health care, etc.).



To: kodiak_bull who wrote (9125)10/8/2001 3:16:31 PM
From: aerosappy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 23153
 
Kb— Airport Security investing

The T.I.C. is an excellent idea and one that you need to remind Secretary Tom Ridge about. Of course the ACLU will complain, but the T.I.C. will be voluntary – if you don’t want to fly, then you do not need to get T.I.C.

In addition to the T.I.C., we need to deploy technologies to ensure that people are who they claim – including those who clean the planes, load baggage, deliver food, act as crewmembers – as well as passengers. One approach is to digitize the faces of those with T.I.C.’s and everyone crossing one of numerous checkpoints for crew, airport employees and contractors as well as passengers. This should also be matched with the Flight Reservation Data Management System you (and now Larry Ellison) recommend.

Since 11 September I started new long-term positions in airport and crowd security companies:
· VSNX
· INVN
· VISG
· ICTS
· MAGS

VSNX is a worldwide producer of identification technologies and systems. Through its respective business lines, FaceIt, live scan and IBIS, VSNX designs and manufacturers forensic quality biometric identification systems and develops and deploys facial recognition technology. The FaceIt technology enables a broad range of products and applications built by partners (OEMs, VARs and system integrators). These include enhanced CCTV systems, identity fraud applications and authentication systems for information security, access control, travel, banking and e-commerce. The TENPRINTER and FingerPrinter CMS are live scan systems used by government agencies, law enforcement, airports, banks and other commercial institutions. The IBIS is a remote identification system that combines expertise in biometric capture and connectivity, and is capable of capturing both forensic quality fingerprints and photographs for transmission to law enforcement and other legacy databases.

INVN markets advanced detection and inspection products by adapting various medical and laboratory technologies for government and commercial uses, such as security, defense and process control. InVision is the worldwide leader in explosive detection technology. INVN develops, manufactures, markets and supports explosive detection systems for civil aviation security based on advanced computed tomography (CT) technology. INVN products were the first automated explosive detection systems to be certified by the Federal Aviation Administration as meeting its stringent requirements. INVN has sold an aggregate of 231 systems to the FAA, foreign aviation security agencies, and domestic and foreign airports and airlines.

VISG is engaged in the field of biometrics technology and in providing digital identification systems and solutions. VISG focuses on identification solutions that improve personal convenience and security, deter fraud and reduce identification program costs. VISG combines its systems integration and software design capabilities with its proprietary software and hardware products and other industry-standard products to create complete customized solutions. These turnkey solutions integrate image and data capture, create relational databases, incorporate multiple biometrics and improve customers' ability to move and manage information. Applications can include driver's licenses, voter registration, national ID's, law enforcement, social services, access control and PC network and Internet access security. VISG products annually produce more than 20 million identification documents at more than 1,200 locations in 13 states.

ICTS is a provider of enhanced aviation security services and other aviation services. ICTS key function has been the implementation of passenger risk evaluation and classification procedures, generally described as "advanced passenger screening." Other security services provided in Europe include other general airport security services, such as the operation of check-points and hold-baggage screening systems, and to a lesser extent, certain aviation passenger handling services and certain general security services. ICTS also provides similar airport services in United States including agent services, guard services, janitorial services, maintenance, pre-departure screening, ramp services, shuttle service, skycap services and wheelchair attendants. ICTS is also engaged in security consulting, training and auditing for airlines and airports.

MAGS (based in Israel) develops, manufactures, markets and sells computerized security systems. MAGS products include perimeter security systems and a video motion detection system, which automatically detect and locate intruders and identify the nature of intrusions, x-ray screening and detection systems, including AISYS, an explosive device detection system that automatically detects, locates and identifies explosive devices in luggage, packages and other parcels, and a pallets x-ray screening machine used to screen large cargoes and those loaded on standard pallets, and MagNet, a security management system that integrates the management, control and display of various security systems into a single, real-time database. MAGS systems are used to protect aircraft, national borders and sensitive facilities, including military bases, power plant installations, airports, postal facilities, prisons and industrial locations, from terrorism, theft and other security threats.