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To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (128175)10/8/2001 2:03:47 PM
From: pater tenebrarum  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
Haim, a positive outcome along those lines would be great...but how realistic is it to hope for one?
my impression is that in order to truly eliminate the hate that has produced the Islamist extremists and their terror, a great deal of fundamental change has to occur, and not all of it to our liking.
if not for our support of the moderate feudalistic and secular regimes in the Middle East i believe the whole region would be in danger of a fundamentalist take-over. even relatively Westernized Turkey, with its 75 year old secular tradition has seen a fundamentalist Islamic party come to power and it could only be removed from its position by undemocratic means.



To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (128175)10/8/2001 5:48:59 PM
From: Andy Thomas  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 436258
 
--the Kurdish Nation establishes a state with the help of the West --

so somehow we get turkey, iran, and iraq all to agree to give up their respective parts of kurdistan?

that's quite a vision but some would say that the current borders were originally created the way they are for a reason - purposeful instability.

andy



To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (128175)10/8/2001 10:42:39 PM
From: samim anbarcioglu  Respond to of 436258
 
.. and ariel sharon out of the picture. the man is simply antithesis of peace.