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To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (499)10/8/2001 3:58:55 PM
From: TigerPaw  Respond to of 15516
 
U.S. Rep. J.C. Watts A Republican role model?
newsok.com

An Oklahoma U.S. representative -- who supports the aviation security bill scheduled for a vote this week -- violated security measures outside Will Rogers World Airport on Sept. 28, aides confirmed.
U.S. Rep. J.C. Watts, R- Norman, was so angry about receiving a parking ticket outside the airport that he shoved the ticket under an Oklahoma City police officer's badge, two of his aides told The Oklahoman.

Watts received the ticket for leaving his car unattended in a loading zone about 10 a.m. One of the new security measures implemented by the Federal Aviation Administration following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks bans unattended vehicles in loading areas.

During the conflict, Watts used the word "bomb" in protesting the ticket, said Pam Pryor, Watts' chief of staff.

In a statement Saturday, Watts said he has apologized about the situation and said he has "the highest regard for law enforcement and appreciates the added burden they are under at this time."

Police sources said Watts yelled at the officer who wrote the ticket, thrusting it between his badge and chin and telling him to "take care of it."

Pryor and Greg McCarthy, Watts' press secretary, said Watts pulled into the parking spot outside the second-level airport terminal about 10 a.m. and helped his wife, Frankie, remove her bags from their 1994 Pontiac. After she stumbled on the curb, Watts helped her carry her bags through a revolving door into the terminal, leaving the car unattended.

Watts said he left the car "for seconds" and was "surprised" to find police Sgt. Edward Stupka leaving a $15 parking ticket on his car.

Stupka told Watts he didn't see him pull up or leave the car, Watts' aides said. The congressman protested the ticket and questioned the security measures at the airport.

"He said something like, 'Well, what if I'd had a bomb?'" Pryor said.

Watts stuffed the ticket under Stupka's badge, she said, and Stupka threw the ticket onto the back seat of Watts' car. Watts then drove away.

Frankie Watts mailed payment for the ticket on Thursday, Pryor said.

On Saturday, a day after learning that The Oklahoman planned to publish a story about the incident, Watts attempted to apologize to Stupka on the telephone.

"He has made repeated attempts in the last 24 hours to make a personal apology to ... Stupka," McCarthy said. "He has tried several times ... but the officer is not receptive."

McCarthy said Watts left a message on Stupka's voice mail expressing his appreciation of the job all law enforcement officers have been doing since Sept. 11. Stupka returned the call, McCarthy said, and told Watts that he had sent a certified letter to Watts' Washington office.

Stupka was unavailable for comment Saturday night, but local Fraternal Order of Police sources told The Oklahoman on Saturday that the letter seeks a written apology from Watts.

Pryor said Watts "recognized his bad behavior" and attempted to apologize. She said Watts, like other government leaders, has been under "a lot of tension, a lot of stress" since Sept. 11.

Airport spokeswoman Karen Carney said the FAA was "made aware" of the incident, but no written reports were made or charges filed because Watts' statements were made outside the terminal and were not threatening.

Last year, a man was detained at the airport for joking about having a bomb in his suitcase during check-in.

CONTRIBUTING: Chris Casteel in the Washington Bureau
U.S. Rep. J.C. Watts: Says he apologized after arguing with police officer at airport.



To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (499)10/8/2001 3:58:58 PM
From: epicure  Respond to of 15516
 
May I just tell you what an excellent point that is. And it hadn't even crossed my mind until I read your post. Thank you.



To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (499)10/8/2001 4:04:52 PM
From: Patricia Trinchero  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 15516
 
There ia a big disaster occurring on the Pakistan border right now. Apparently there is no water and people cannot even clean their wounds so medicine isn't helping. The dropping of supplies isn't working because they are being shattered on impact and the people are not getting to the crates that may survive the drop. I was told that the lack of water is the gravest problem right now. The bombing has destroyed the sources of water so the refugees are stranded.

I heard this from a friend who is from Pakistan and still has a brother living there with his family.She talked to him this morning on the telephone. My friend also had three family members working the the WTC including a sister who was confined to a wheelchair. They all survived
and were very lucky but badly shaken as was everyone close to the tragedy.

Another friend of mine missed flight 93 by one week. She lives in New Jersey and 48 friends of her family are missing presumed dead. There are probably thousands of people in the same condition.



To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (499)10/8/2001 7:18:05 PM
From: Mephisto  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 15516
 
And I logged on to tell you about a few people that I've talked to over the last few hours.
They were upset and depressed after the attack. They never said it was wrong but they
are so worried. I am sure they worry because of the downturn in the economy here as well..

I've talked with many people since the September 11 attacks, and they all suffer from
some form of mental stress. They say they can't sleep. They are tense.

I haven't talked with anyone who celebrated after yesterday's attacks. Maybe, the
people who celebrated had had a little too much to drink................



To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (499)10/8/2001 8:10:57 PM
From: Mephisto  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 15516
 
Many Muslims protest the US strikes in Afghanistan

Tensions in Muslim World Mount Over U.S.-Led Strikes

JAKARTA (Reuters) - Police in Pakistan battled thousands of frenzied
anti-U.S. demonstrators as calls for a holy war against the United States
echoed throughout the Muslim world following the U.S.-led strikes on
Afghanistan .

While the United States and its allies were at pains to reassure the Islamic
world that President Bush's war on terrorism was not
anti-Muslim, hard-liners from Europe to the Middle East to Asia appeared to
be gearing up for a fight.

In the western Pakistani city of Quetta, thousands of marchers shouting
``Death to America'' torched an office of the United Nations Children's Fund, two cinemas, shops, a bank, cars and an office of Pakistan's Central Investigations Agency.

Protesters brandishing pictures of Osama bin Laden the
man blamed for masterminding last month's kamikaze attacks on the United
States, paraded through several other Pakistani cities.

In Egypt, more than 20,000 students demonstrated against the strikes launched Sunday in reprisal for
the suicide hijackings that killed thousands of people in New York and Washington.

``U.S. go to hell, Afghanis will prevail,'' students cried at Alexandria University.

In India , which has one of the world's biggest Muslim populations, the head of India's biggest mosque
said he would call on the country's 120 million Muslims to provide moral support for a jihad, or holy
war, against the United States.

``I am not talking about arming and sending Indian Muslims to fight. Just our moral support,'' Syed
Ahmed Bukhari, chief cleric of the Jama Mosque in New Delhi, told Reuters.

In India's Muslim-majority state of Kashmir , hundreds of demonstrators protested
against the strikes, shouting: ``The superpower is Allah. Afghan warriors -- we are with you.''

REASON FOR ATTACKS

``There have been attacks and violence for years in the Arab and Muslim world as a result of the U.S.
so there was a reason this (the attacks on the U.S.) happened,'' said an angry young Sudanese at a
mosque in Paris. ``If there is a war, I'm ready.''

Islamic support is crucial to the success of the U.S. war on terrorism as Afghanistan is surrounded
mainly by Muslim countries, analysts say.


``The United States should know without Islamic support, the obstacles will be dangerous,'' said Saudi
Arabia's al-Riyadh newspaper. ``(It) should be aware of how entwined its position and interests are
with the Islamic world in times of war and peace.''


In military-ruled Pakistan, viewed as Washington's most vital -- and shakiest ally -- President Pervez
Musharraf said he was sure Pakistani authorities could contain the protests.


About eight km (five miles) from the Afghan border, Pakistani militia opened fire on about 8,000
Pushtun tribesmen who burned an effigy of Bush. Three protesters were injured.

In the Pakistan capital of Islamabad, United Nations staff were asked to stay home and about 1,000
protesters, some armed with sticks and swords, marched to the American Center.

Musharraf has thrown his weight behind the United States but has to contend with fundamentalist
clerics, many of whom have endorsed the Taliban's formula for a pure Islamic
state.

In Indonesia, home to the world's largest Muslim population, a small but
strident radical Islamic group threatened to hunt down foreigners and destroy
foreign targets as embassies there warned their nationals to stay indoors.

Other minority radical groups threatened a holy war against Americans.
Indonesia's secular government, seeking to tread a fine line between
supporting Washington and not alienating Muslim hard-liners, said it was
following the U.S.-led strikes with ``deep concern'' and said civilian casualties should be avoided.

DECRIED STRIKES

In mostly Muslim Malaysia, whose government is a fierce critic of the West, both Prime Minister
Mahathir Mohamad and the opposition decried the strikes, saying innocents would die.

But there were no reports of trouble.

Mahathir, who has backed Washington's war on terrorism but not an attack on Afghanistan, said the
strikes could result in ''catastrophe.'' The main opposition Parti Islam se-Malaysia said, ``We see it as
an act of terrorism.''

Bin Laden, the target of the U.S.-led raids, urged Muslims to rise up if Afghanistan came under attack,
saying in a pre-recorded message, ``Every Muslim must rise to defend his religion.'' He said Americans
would be unable to live in peace until the Palestinians did.

In Gaza, two Palestinian protesters, including a 13-year-old youth, were shot dead and 40 wounded in
clashes with Palestinian police during a protest by thousands in support of bin Laden.

Witnesses said police killed the demonstrators with live bullets at the rally called by the militant Hamas
group, which called the attacks on Afghanistan ``pure terrorism against an innocent people'' but police
said masked gunmen killed the two.

Palestinian officials said bin Laden had no right to use the Palestinians' plight as a pretext for violence
but were tight-lipped on whether they supported the U.S.-led strike

Analysts say Muslim anger may build further in the coming days as the attacks continue and casualties
grow.

Iraq's foreign minister, Naji Sabri,
said the western air strikes had brought several Muslim countries
``to the brink of a big war being launched against Islamic states and Muslim people.''

Some U.S. officials have named Iraq as a possible target of a second wave of strikes by the United
States against countries it alleges back terrorism. Iraq denies it sponsors terrorism.

Sabri was speaking as he arrived in Qatar for an emergency meeting of the 56-nation Organization of
the Islamic Conference, which represents the world's 1.2 billion Muslims.

dailynews.yahoo.com



To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (499)10/9/2001 4:49:45 PM
From: Mephisto  Respond to of 15516
 
"Yesterday I heard that a crowd of people were gathered in Crawford, Tx. During their gathering it was announced that the US had attacked Afghanistan .......the crowd cheered in jubilation!!!.."

Today's paper has several articles about many people who are jittery and afraid because of
the terrorist attack and because of our attacks on Afghanistan.

Even officers who participate in the attack are cautious and tense.

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Tense and Secretive Mood as Jets and Missiles Roar Off Warships

"The rear admiral who commands the Enterprise battle group, and is the senior officer aboard this ship,
said he feared that his work could put at risk the safety of his family back home in Norfolk, Va.,
if his name were widely known. "


THE NAVY
From The New York Times
October 8, 2001

By DOUGLAS JEHL

BOARD U.S.S. ENTERPRISE, in the
Arabian Sea, Monday, Oct. 8 — With crew
members crowded onto the observation deck in
nervous excitement, strike aircraft roared off the
flight deck here at 10:20 on Sunday night, four
hours after the first wave of the American attack
began on Afghan targets.

Warplanes, including a pair of F- 14's heavily laden
with munitions, took off in a fiery thrust of
afterburners and then disappeared into the night
sky. Tomahawk cruise missiles soared into the sky from a nearby guided-missile cruiser, presumed to be the
Philippine Sea.

On the Enterprise there was a mood of high tension, but also apprehension. The rear admiral who commands
the Enterprise battle group, and is the senior officer aboard this ship, said he feared that his work could put at
risk the safety of his family back home in Norfolk, Va., if his name were widely known.

Commanders on the Enterprise have adopted a posture of extraordinary caution in discussing
the mission, declining even to allow their last names or those of their crew to be published.
The admiral's fears are clearly widely shared. Not even during the Persian Gulf war did senior American officers seem so skittish.


Before the strikes, the ship's captain addressed his crew, consisting of 5,000 men and women, over the
loudspeaker and recalled that in 1941, an aircraft carrier named Enterprise took part in the first retaliatory
strikes on Japan after Pearl Harbor.

On Sunday night, this officer proclaimed that the latest Enterprise, like its
namesake, had stepped in to avenge "a treacherous attack on our homeland."

"Like 1941, this war will be a little more personal than defending our vital
interests," the commander said. "We are defending our families and our
homeland."

The ship's captain, who serves under the admiral, said: "It used to be that we
were defending a vital national interest, like in Iraq and Kuwait. Now we're
defending our country, so we're all a little bit more cautious right now."

A group of reporters was allowed by the Navy to travel to this ship only
Sunday morning from Bahrain, the headquarters of the United States Fifth
Fleet, and arrived about six hours before the attack began.

Commanders have refused to discuss the mission in any detail, saying that
they did not want to do anything to jeopardize the safety of the aircraft, pilots
and crew. They would not allow reporters to interview pilots in the hours
leading up to the strike, saying that they did not want to distract them from
their work.

"All of us would agree that we're facing new dangers, and we're taking new
precautions," the battle group commander said in explaining his tight-lipped
policies.

Over the loudspeaker, the captain, an accomplished Navy aviator himself,
took pains to outline the moment of the attack as one of great significance.
He asked the crew to say a prayer for the pilots. "Do not let the enormity and
excitement of what you are about to do distract you from what you have to
do right," he added. "Don't think of this as revenge. Revenge only belongs to
God."

The Enterprise, the flagship of a battle group that includes about a dozen
vessels and some 7,500 personnel, has been in the region since the Sept. 11 attacks, having left its station in
the Persian Gulf on Sept. 9 to begin a journey to South Africa. It was immediately ordered to turn around
after the attacks, commanders said.

Sunday marked the first time in the nearly four weeks since the attack on the Pentagon and the World Trade
Center that any reporters had been permitted aboard any American aircraft carrier. But even on Sunday night,
reporters were prevented from filing articles about the attack until all the planes involved in the first wave of
the strike had returned to the carrier.

For several days before the strikes, officers said, the ship's aircraft had been conducting operations at night, a
step that has required many of those aboard the ship to convert to a nocturnal rhythm.

It appeared unclear on Sunday night whether the F-14 and F-18 strike aircraft being launched from the
Enterprise would be able to reach their targets in Afghanistan on their own, or would require midair refueling
from tanker aircraft that were launched several minutes before the first fighter planes roared into the air.

All of the fighter aircraft aboard the Enterprise had been heavily loaded with precision guided missiles known
as Guided Bomb Units. Most were also equipped with external fuel pods to provide an additional supply for
what appeared likely to be a long flight.

The aircraft began to take off at 10:20 p.m. Sunday (2:20 p.m. Washington time), and began to return to the
carrier three hours and 10 minutes later. Officers said that all of those that took part in the first wave of
attacks from the Enterprise had returned safely to the ship.

Several days ago, officers said, the ship's company was issued chemical weapons protection gear, a rare step
aboard an aircraft carrier. The captain said he did not believe the vessel faced any particular risk of a chemical
attack, but said it was a precaution that he felt obliged to take.

In addition to the Enterprise, at least one other carrier, Carl Vinson, is also in the Arabian Sea.

Another carrier, the Theodore Roosevelt, left Norfolk soon after the Sept. 11 attack and is believed also to
be in the region, while a fourth, the Kitty Hawk, is en route from Japan.

In an unusual step, the Kitty Hawk has been deployed without its air wing, a move that American officials said
was intended to leave its deck clear for possible helicopter-borne commando operations.

The Enterprise, however, has maintained its air wing, which includes the F-14 and F-18 fighter aircraft along
with E6-B planes capable of conducting electronic warfare.

Among the crowd of sailors who watched the planes taking off — and in some cases, filmed the event with
video cameras — was a young man from the Bronx who gave his first name as Nelson.

"My aunt works at the World Trade Center, but she was away," he said. "So we were some of the lucky
ones. I've been waiting for this for a long time. The faster we bomb, the sooner we can go home."

nytimes.com