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To: Dan3 who wrote (144911)	10/8/2001 9:26:35 PM
From: wanna_bmw	Respond to of 186894

Dan, Re: "DDR for PC's is 99.9% an AMD effort. AMD designed the only chipsets that were available for some time, AMD did the marketing. AMD basically made a home for DDR in PCs and by doing so AMD successfully stopped the deranged Intel Inquisition from hanging DDR as a witch and substituting overpriced, underperforming, Intel controlled RDRAM in its place. Like they had a choice. They were certainly far enough behind Intel that they couldn't go the route of RDRAM if they wanted to, even though RDRAM might have done quite well paired with the Athlon. Or perhaps the irony is that if they had gone RDRAM, they might have had a quicker time to market with a higher bandwidth memory option. DDR certainly took long enough to get going, and it certainly appeared as if there was minimal effort from the side of AMD. The whole RDRAM vs. DDR episode is a shameful one for Intel, and a perfect example of why so many people go out of their way to avoid Intel products." Oh please, you're boring me to tears. I've heard it all before. The industry denied Rambus; not because of higher prices or poor performance, since neither was an inherent problem with the technology, but because greedy memory manufacturers didn't want to pay the royalty when they could get an equal technology from JEDEC for free. And your little hypocrisy does little to support your cause, since AMD was kind enough to make their customers wait for unavailable DDR, while RDRAM had been around for more than a year. AMD forced DDR down the throats of the people, but because you were all brainwashed into thinking in terms of evil corporations, you took what AMD fed you with open mouths. "Intel's dream is to see its customers stuck with very expensive mediocre performing PCs. As a PC buyer, my dream is to be able to buy a high performance PC at low cost and therefore to see Intel's dream frustrated." Oh sure, frustrate your customers... that's an excellent business model. Or, if you think about it, DDR was JEDEC's pipe dream when Intel decided to go with RDRAM, and because of DDR's late entry, RDRAM might have almost had a chance. Certainly, Rambus did a fine job of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, and maybe Intel had a part in that, too, due to bad timing and problems with the i820 chipset. But in theory, RDRAM would have offered what DDR was late to deliver: a high bandwidth memory interface that could scale well into the future. "If you have any trace of common sense, you'll just walk away from this particular discussion. AMD's sponsorship of DDR was a really great thing for everyone who cares about the progress of the computer industry, and Intel's machinations and conniving to force the market to use overpriced, Intel controlled, RDRAM was a really ugly thing it did to its loyal customers." What----ever. You close your eyes to common sense all the time on this thread, and this is no exception. Why don't you call a spade a spade. Rambus made some idiotic moves, and Intel probably shares the blame, but in theory the technology was sound, the performance was there, and the time to market could have made RDRAM the current prevailing memory technology. Intel saw this opportunity, and they blew it. Yet you idiots would make it sound like its failure was written in the stars. Bah, you know nothing. Stop wasting time on this subject with your tomfoolery. wanna_bmw

To: Dan3 who wrote (144911)	10/8/2001 9:36:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Dan, <DDR for PC's is 99.9% an AMD effort> Sure it is. And the other 0.1% is VIA, Micron, and ServerWorks combined, right? ;-) Tenchusatsu