I got some time to scan some of the headers and I think I have something to say regarding this post:
>Musharraf is a dead man walking. He's got 3 guns pointed at his head with the U.S. gun being the biggest ... that's how the U.S. gets cooperation out of an unwilling ally ... don't let the public honeymoon fool you. That's also the only way to get anyone in Pakistan to cooperate. Musharraff is under threat from the U.S., the Taliban - Muslim extremists in his own country - bin Laden and now also from India. Considering that he doesn't appear to be a very intelligent guy he's managing it better than expected.
Lola, I think you are waaaaaaay off on this one! (IMHO, of course). Musharraf is doing an outstanding job from a Pakistani perspective and he is gaining strength and he has managed to make his country the cornerstone for the West to obtain "Victory". He has been naming his price and he has been in a ultra orgy prize collection mode since 9/11! I wrote the following piece on 9/18. I will update it now, the updates will be in brackets []...Enjoy...
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>So the top priority is to make Pakistan feel comfortable as much as possible.
I think this has been happening this past week. IMHO (and I've been known I have
some "interesting" ones) the winner of this conflict (other than Israel of course) is
Pakistan. Without its help we simply can not WIN, actually we don't even have a shot
unless we 'll cut our own throats by sending our troops in the Afgani graveyard. Folks, I
got some time right now, my son finally fell asleep and I will explain you MY THEORY
(heck, it's mine and you can't have it, before I hear a better one that makes sense to me I
'll keep it, so back off<g>.
There has been a steady barrage on talking up Osama in the US media for a while now.
We must all remember that we like to paint our enemies like evil, Hitlers, etc (even
though they were our friends earlier but we won't go there for now). Examples abound
from Noriega, to Qaddafi, to Saddam, to Milosevich and now good old lunatic Osama.
I also believe that there has been an (intentional?) relaxation on the measures of getting
to him (remember we need evil to go to war). I find it very curious that as soon as this
happened Osama was plastered all over the media and our government (which is known
not to move too fast on apprehending and investigating suspects, unless they are ethnic
Chinese Wen Ho Lee<g> or spicy ones like Monica,etc.) pretty much concluded that it
was Osama, we will smoke him (them? good luck) out of their holes (very catchy) and
we wil bring him to justice dead or alive (tough, we like tough here, tough is good for the
polls too!).
So, you ask me, if it was not Osama, who? Well, I think it is Pakistan's ISI agency in
coordination with Osama's sleeper cells who likely do not even have contact with this
guy anymore. Taliban would not be in existence without ISI's help (and CIA's help but
we won't go there). ISI is a very good intelligence agency (number 1 in the world is
Israel's Mossad of course). I do not believe for one bit that Osama planned and carried
this act alone without the help of an intelligence agency. And I think ISI is behind it. Of
course, like all good intelligence agencies they cover their tracks well and this will never
be found out (don't ask me who killed John Kennedy now<g.). ISI created and set up
the Taliban to serve their own purposes to expand their sphere of influence in Afganistan,
appease some of the strong Islamic supporters within Pakistan (hey, you got to give
them something, they are starving, if they have no outlet they may well rise and kick the
government dudes out, kind of like pacifying them), and likely set them up for something
that will SAVE the country. After the attack, and after convicting the Taliban and
Osama, WIN will not be delivered until we get Osama's head (and likely a few
others--of course, this has nothing to do with defeating terrorism but who gives a crap
about that right now, Georgie is totally desperate to deliver VICTORY to us).
VICTORY is Osama and a few others dressed in robes and in shackles on the front
page of New York Times with Bush's photo next to them and the title "I promised you I
will smoke them out of their holes, I kept my promise" (unlike his daddy<g>). Polls soar,
we go into a frenzy here (until the next terrorist attack months or years later, we ll deal
with that later). Now, can Musharraf deliver VICTORY to Georgie? I don't know, but if
he and ISI can not deliver nobody can. We need the intelligence info only ISI can
provide, we need air space and likely bases in Pakistan to go "WIN" this war. If there is
a chance Musharraf can deliver the WIN (outlined above, it has nothing to do with
defeating terrorism, terrorism is here to stay I am afraid, it has always been around the
world, now it reached us here and I think it's staying and we'll just have to live with it) I
hope (for our sake) that Georgie pays Musharraf for this favor. And, trust me on this
one, Musharraf can name his price and we can deliver it. There has always been talk of
forgiving $30 billion in debt (nice chunk of change), there will new opportunities with
IMF and World bank financing, military aid, rent for the air space and bases, on and on
and on. Will the Taliban supporters like it? Hell NO! Will they be strong enough to
topple him (they will sure try!). Maybe but I don't think so. Musharraf (another fine
freedom loving democrat) is a General and will do whatever it's necessary to pacify the
crowd (suppress the hell out of them) [he has shown that already] and I think he can win (it will likely involve cutting
the throats of the ISI officials who are true friends of the Taliban, easy task). [he has done that too already!] And
Musharraf can stall (after feasting on all the prizes) and play difficult to get and tell
Georgie "Even after all the gifts you gave me I still think my people will kick my ass and
hang me in the local square and Georgie, look, if that happens there is absolutely no way
for you to get to Osama, if you think I am asking for a lot, then you will need the
Russians and their demands will make mine look like peanuts...and Georgie, CAN YOU
IMAGINE, if my people hang me, they may get their hands on our nuclear bombs and
hand deliver them to Osama....Georgie visibly shaken, "okay,okay. WHAT DO YOU
WANT MAN? YOU ARE SCARING THE CRAP OUT OF ME?" And Musharraf
says: "Kashmir" Georgie goes "Well India, you know, ..." Musharraf about to do his
"nuclear bomb delivered to Osama routine" and Georgie goes OKAY, OKAY. We 'll
force India somehow to deal you Kashmir,....So, here is Musharraf who can save his
ass, kickstart a pitiful economy, get loads of arms and loans, and give his people the
ultimate prize Kashmir (which will especially make the Taliban supporters still go out and
protest, but not go out to hang Musharraf in the local square). [ you must remember, over 90% of this country's budget goes to meet the interest on massive foreign debt and on defense!....and then we wonder why madrassas are so popular there?<g>]
Far fetched? I don't think so. Possible? Sure, everything is possible after last Tuesday. In
international diplomacy, anything is possible when you are needed so badly, especially to
us!
So, regardless, we 'll need some bases in the Pakistan Afganistan border sooner or later [it hasn't happened yet but I think it is coming and we will likely never know it perhaps...The fact that we got some available bases in the Kistans north of Afganistan only shows our desperation and the fact that we are willing to meet Putin's price....of course, giving free hand on Chechnya, massive economic assistance, ....but I don't think we will give in to a formal refusal to expand NATO to the east, too big of a price to pay, therefore Musharraf remains DA MAN].
They of course will be isolated from the pakistani masses and protected by Musharraf's
henchmen and ISI. We'll be blasting some goats in Afgan mountains, have the CIA
people dress them in robes, and beam back images with titles like: "Four more terrorists
met justice, we are winning the war, we told you it's a long war, it will take time...blah
blah blah" This will be happening right after Georgie's poll numbers take a dip. Hopefully
we'll let the Pakistani soldiers do the attacking for us. I just hope the maddness we are
in, I just hope we do not see American soldiers in Afganistan, it aint' no dessert, they 'll
pick us off and will be loads of bodybags. Based on our conduct of the Kosovo war and
extreme distaste of casualties I don't think we'll go in (I hope so anyway). We'll lose a
few and we'll send them home with titles "Heroes died fighting terrorism" when they
probably had a brawl after getting drunk during the Superbowl or something <g>. So,
you are saying, when do we WIN? The answer right before the next Presidential election
(hey, they told us it will be a long war) we ''ll have Osama and George in the White
House for four more years. Of course terrorism will not stop, there always was, is and
will be terrorism. You know it's like the war on drugs,crime and all that stuff.
Okay, if you have read so far, sit down for the grand finale. But at least we get Osama
which will reduce terrorism, right? Maybe. I tell you this is not a relevant question. We
will not go there to beat terrorism, we will go there for our economic interests in the vast
oil and gas fields north of Afganistan. I mean, unfortunately for the intellect level of our
country, lots of people believe we went to the Gulf to save Kuwait and we went to the
Balkans to stop the Serbs's ethnic cleansing (good one!). Wake up everybody, to keep
the gazillions of our SUVs humming along and the oil companies deep pockets (what the
hell did you think all these campaign contributions were for?) we need more oil and gas,
they are in the Caspian sea and all those kistan countries in the south end of the former
Soviet Union. We need to get there, and who knows Pakistan may even be rewarded
with a pipeline going through it!
Unfortunately, lots of innocents will die (they always do), and if we lose the PR war
(nothing like one of our bombs bombing a school or something like that....I mean not
how we see it, hey our leaders told us we got to WIN, besides, it's just collateral
damage), how all the poor Muslims in the Middle East and Pakistan see it? [more images of bombing UN humanitarian workers and houses can not help!@] There could
be a backlash and hang all of the fat kings/sheiks/generals we support there and make a
mad million man suicide march on our bases in Saudi Arabia? Imagine that, tryly scary,
we lose all the men there and we lose control of the oil.
thank you for reading, I hope it was educational and entertaining (it sure was for me,
entertaining I mean<g>.
I stand behind my ISI connection and the real reason we are going there (oil and gas).
George@haveIlostitoramIbrilliantDONOTANSWERTHAT@biz
Goodnight everyone
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Goodnight.
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