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To: D. Long who wrote (6363)	10/9/2001 7:26:33 PM
From: goldsnow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

and you remove their justification>>> No you don't. They deny Israel Right to exist in Palestine..They would never agree on any settlement...

To: D. Long who wrote (6363)	10/9/2001 7:30:39 PM
From: goldsnow	Respond to of 23908

Any Palestinian State would be totally dependent on Israel and International Community....The clush of Islam and Infidels would never stop, the only way to defend Backwards Islamic Regimes is to fight infidels...Israel is just on frontline... But your point is well taken..there will be an attempt to sue for piece, (Palestinian State will be established, no doubt) that will resolve nothing...

To: D. Long who wrote (6363)	10/9/2001 7:38:47 PM
From: Machaon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

<< I don't EXPECT them to stop. I expect them TO HANG THEMSELVES. >> Hang "themselves"?! After how many dead Israelis would you consider your plan working? << Then the international community, and Israel, is blameless in destroying them. >> You forget that the international community includes the Arab nations, all of which looks forward to the destruction of Israel.

To: D. Long who wrote (6363)	10/9/2001 7:48:21 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23908

You remove the occupation and give them political autonomy, and you remove their justification. Then they are MERE TERRORISTS. Then the international community, and Israel, is blameless in destroying them. Um, Derek, haven't you noticed that Israel is never blameless in the eyes of the international community? When they react with restraint to suicide bombers, they are oppressors; when they react with more force, they are terrorists. How many times do you have to see that the international community has no interest in stopping terrorists against Israel before you believe it? Hezbollah terrorists kidnapped Israeli soldiers right under the noses of the UN peacekeepers in Lebanon; the UN guys shot videotape, tried to hide it, then refused to give it to Israel. Even now, after the WTC attacks, most of the international community is busy differentiating the attacks against the US, which are "terrorism", from the attacks against Israel, which are "resistance". Since the Arab countries have never forgiven Israel for existing, the current wave of Islamicist fervor has reawakened the great hope of reclaiming all of Occupied Palestine for the Arabs. An Israeli withdrawal would only give them hope for the final victory. If Israel withdrew to the 1967 lines, the locus of the dispute would just move, just as it moved to Shebaa farms after Israel withdrew from Lebanon to the UN-sanctioned border. Israel would be living next to an openly terrorist state, and would be condemned for responding to terrorist attacks against it, just as it is condemned now. After the Gulf War, Israel hoped that the Arabs had accepted the reality of their existence. In fact, the Arabs had only accepted the reality of Israel's military power. An Israeli withdrawal only would give Egypt and Syria the idea that Israel had lost its stomach for war, and thus lead to another war. Only Israeli deterrence stopped it up til now.