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To: Thomas M. who wrote (3980)	10/10/2001 6:35:13 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"The silence is deafening." Always with the rhetorical devices. FL asked us to stay on topic, so I won't take the bait.

To: Thomas M. who wrote (3980)	10/10/2001 7:56:13 AM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 281500

Edward Said is a very intelligent, educated man with an excellent reputation, but he's also been exposed as a liar. frontpagemag.com The problem with history is that no one person can know everything, so we have to rely on the work of others. If another historian tells even one little lie, then nothing he says can be taken at face value ever again. You always have to go back and check his sources, to see if he's telling the truth.

To: Thomas M. who wrote (3980)	10/10/2001 8:51:34 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

I recently started buying road maps of all the global hot spots because they have more detail than my atlas. I had never looked at a map that showed the West Bank before, and was surprised at how large it is - about half of Israel, roughly. Why do the Palestinians continue to live in refugee camps rather than settle on the West Bank? According to the Palestine Ministry of Information minfo.gov.ps many of the refugees simply refuse to leave the camps because they want to move back into the land that is now Israel. minfo.gov.ps If so, would setting up a Palestinian state in the West Bank region change that?

To: Thomas M. who wrote (3980)	10/10/2001 1:31:46 PM
From: ThirdEye	Respond to of 281500

Edward Said is an intelligent voice of reason...most of the time, but he is not immune to inflammatory and patently false statements, depending on his audience, such as below. These comments appeared on an Arabic website: And this means, as no one needs any further reminding, that Osama Bin Laden, the elusive Muslim fanatic who represents Islam to the vast majority of Americans,* has taken center stage.* Pundits and hosts refer non-stop to "our" war with Islam TV and radio have run file pictures....... almost incessently* of the Palestinian women and children caught "celebrating" America's tragedy.* And just how do you lump Safire and Rosenthal together? ....bloodthirsty columnists like Charles Krauthammer, William Safire, George Will, Norman Podhoretz, and A M Rosenthal, whose columns regularly express hatred and hostility towards Arabs and Muslims He fails, of course, to mention that Saddam has always had a choice to meet the condition of the sanctions, or not: innocent victims of American power (as in Iraq), He certainly is capable of telling the truth, however: The overall result is that any attempt to place the horrors of what occurred on 11 September in a context that includes US actions and rhetoric is either attacked or dismissed as somehow condoning the terrorist bombardment. A new secular Arab politics must now make itself known, without for a moment condoning or supporting the militancy (it is madness) of people willing to kill indiscriminately. There can be no more ambiguity on that score. amin.org