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To: cnyndwllr who wrote (9286)10/10/2001 12:45:22 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 23153
 
CIA's Stealth War Centers on Eroding Taliban Loyalty and Aiding Opposition

Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, October 10, 2001; Page A01

The United States announced its war in Afghanistan with dramatic airstrikes Sunday but the campaign could ultimately be won by the covert efforts of American and Pakistani agents to win over commanders in the south and east of the country who are the base of Taliban support, according to current and former U.S. officials.

In these parts of Afghanistan where the ruling Taliban is most deeply rooted in the local ethnic Pashtun community, CIA agents have launched an effort to win the loyalty of dissident Taliban commanders through the use of money or fear, administration officials said.

This program represents one element in an American strategy, tailored to the political and ethnic geography of Afghanistan, to attack Taliban positions, encourage defections among Taliban supporters and bolster opposition military forces through airstrikes, financial support and psychological warfare.

The United States has sought to turn the tide in northern Afghanistan on behalf of the Northern Alliance, which was already battling the Taliban before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks in the United States, both by targeting government tanks and aircraft and arming opposition commanders. Within the last week, the alliance forces of Gen. Abdurrashid Dostum have begun to receive assault weapons, mortars, rocket-propelled grenades and other military supplies from Uzbekistan that were paid for by the United States, according to Philip Smith, Dostum's representative in Washington.

While international attention has focused on northern Afghanistan, the only part of the country where western journalists have access, an equally significant and perhaps ultimately decisive effort to shape opposition is occurring in the south, where the CIA effort to encourage defections from the Taliban is centered.

President Bush alluded yesterday to the importance of covert actions in the counterterrorism campaign. "There will be a conventional component to the conflict, but much of what takes place will never make it onto the TV screens," he said.

It is in the south and southeast where the campaign remains most in the shadows. "The intell stuff -- the efforts to get the Pashtuns to defect -- that's the war you don't see," said a former CIA official familiar with Afghanistan. "Once you get that, you can operate militarily."

Strikes on Taliban targets by U.S. aircraft and cruise missiles are meant to punctuate the clandestine wooing of commanders, tribal leaders and village elders in the broad swath of Afghanistan from Jalalabad in the east to Kandahar in the south where the ethnic Pashtun community is centered, officials said. The Taliban is composed primarily of Pashtuns and profits from their traditional rivalry with other Afghan ethnic groups.

"There's the message to the Taliban: Time to quake in your boots. Then there's the message to the Taliban moderates, which is: Now's the time to change sides. It's agency guys doing it, inside the south and east," the former CIA official said.

Another former CIA officer with extensive experience in Afghanistan said the only practical strategy for ousting the Taliban is to "peel off" Pashtun tribal leaders who had not expected they would face war with the United States when they allied themselves with Mohammad Omar, the Taliban leader. Winning Pashtun defectors, he said, will not be difficult for the CIA. "These are rented relationships -- if you have common grounds, common interests, you can do something for a few bucks," he said.

The success of this strategy could turn on the intelligence efforts and intimate cooperation of Pakistan, which initially created and fostered the Taliban in the 1990s. That prospect received a crucial boost on Sunday when the Pakistani president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, ousted several influential intelligence and military leaders who remained close to the Taliban, most notably purging Gen. Mahmoud Ahmed of the Interservices Intelligence Agency, which long served as the Taliban's patron.

"Much depends, in this whole process, on the Pakistanis," said Jack Devine, a former CIA operations official who headed the agency's Afghan task force. "It's a question of going in with the right incentives. When [Pashtun leaders] see the Taliban is a losing proposition, they will be looking for new allies. I'm pretty optimistic about driving the Taliban into the ground."

But Abdul Haq, a prominent Pashtun commander opposed to the Taliban, said the U.S.-led bombing campaign is undermining efforts to turn relatively moderate Taliban commanders against the hard-line leadership of Omar.

Speaking yesterday from Peshawar, Pakistan, the former mujaheddin fighter said he was planning to return to Afghanistan to muster his supporters against the Taliban. Haq said he had been involved in intensive talks with Taliban commanders interested in switching sides. But, he said, "after the bombing started, it put us in a difficult situation and it weakened the moderate Taliban inside the Taliban."

In northern Afghanistan, overt U.S. military action and coordination with the Northern Alliance is designed to play a dominant role, administration officials said. U.S. Special Forces have an important part in the battles in the north and west, in particular calling in airstrikes against Taliban troops and equipment, according to the former CIA official familiar with Afghanistan.

Northern Alliance fighters have begun capitalizing on American airstrikes -- in particular targeting a Taliban concentration of Soviet-era tanks near the major regional center of Mazar-e Sharif -- to advance against Taliban positions.

Smith said the U.S. airstrikes on Taliban MiGs and attack helicopters have also given a considerable boost to alliance forces, which under Dostum have been engaged in street-to-street fighting on the outskirts of Mazar. "The morale in the forces is very high, especially after what was hit in yesterday's bombing," he said.

He also said that U.S. officials have paid for the provision of old Soviet weapons stashed in Uzbekistan, including small arms, AK-47 assault weapons and ammunition, rocket-propelled grenades, antitank weapons, mortars, mines and supplies, including food and medicine. Dostum's forces began to receive the weapons within the last week but said they fall short of expectations.

"It would be more beneficial if they would be arriving in larger quantities and in a more timely fashion and a mix of weapons and ammunition that is a little different," Smith said. In particular, he said Dostum needs more rocket-propelled grenades and tanks.

U.S. intelligence officials have received reports of Taliban forces pulling back from the border of Uzbekistan to reinforce Mazar, according to one U.S. official. "In the north, there's some movement -- Taliban forces pulling back to reinforce Mazar-e Sharif, coming back to the urban area from the border," the official said.

Briefing reporters yesterday at the Pentagon, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and Air Force Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, did not rule out tactical air support for Northern Alliance forces: "That is a possibility, but I'm not telling you we're going to do that."

Asked whether the U.S. military, flying from distant bases, could provide tactical air support for Northern Alliances, Myers said that it could. "We have the capability to operate at great distances," he said, adding that U.S. aircraft "would not be prohibited technically" from providing close-in air support of Northern Alliance troops.

The U.S. official said that the fall of Mazar would clear the way for another opposition commander, Ismail Khan, to capture the western city of Herat. Such a turn of fortune could convince some Taliban commanders to break ranks with the Taliban and back the rebellion to preserve a Pashtun element in the government, administration officials and analysts said. Unlike the Taliban, the Northern Alliance mainly draws its support from the minority Uzbek, Tajik and Hazara communities.
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Staff writer Thomas E. Ricks and news researcher Karl Evanzz contributed to this report.

© 2001 The Washington Post Company



To: cnyndwllr who wrote (9286)10/10/2001 1:13:53 PM
From: kodiak_bull  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 23153
 
Left hand column of the WSJ has a good article on trying to follow the money trail, banks, etc.

Wanted criminals (Almidhar and Alhazmi!!) used their credit cards to buy airplane tickets; they were wanted by the INS and the FBI, only VISA knew where to find them.

Not to beat a dead horse here but my Travel Identification Card, TIC, with all its smart information, could be just the item required by banks, money transfer agents etc. to require when a person comes in to send or receive money. Harmless, but it could provide the vital trace on loot which flies under the normal banking radar.

The article (could someone access it and post it here) is hilariously in a tragicomic sense. Banks send their money laundering notices, BY US MAIL, to Detroit, which are then sent (on paper) to Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa Reservation in North Dakota, where they data feed it by hand onto magnetic tape which is then sent back to Detroit. Elapsed time: 9 days (I do believe that's 9 days AT BEST).

Apparently Mohammed Atta did a $100K transfer but Treasury Department had the report in its own files when Atta flew the jet into the WTC.

I guess I'm not worried about Big Brother watching; I'm more worried about Big Brother being asleep at the switch.

Kb



To: cnyndwllr who wrote (9286)10/10/2001 1:30:03 PM
From: Mark Adams  Respond to of 23153
 
Very interesting post. Your point about experience and bravado in the face of playing the 'visitor' role in the conflict should be expressed clearly to the troops being deployed.

This conflict would be a great chance to deploy robotic devices to seek out potential targets, IMO. If we had/have them. I for one suspect there are many booby trapped caves awaiting exploration by visiting forces.

Satellite infared might be able to detect sentinels and lookouts distributed throughout the mountains?

A story I happened on yesterday;

Osama Bin Laden In The U.S.?
What If? And Could he be?

Let’s just color outside the lines a dab and be irrational a bit. A lot of news is both irrational and irresponsible; some may deem this article such, but I believe in always asking Why? The truth might just be that no one knows where he is. Not the CIA, not the Taliban and not his Mama in Paris. Just maybe it was someone else that called his Mama before the attack. Maybe a decoy was in place and just maybe the decoy called his Mama or maybe it was a tape recording and not an actual phone call dialogue. Masses of “what ifs” and “maybes” exist on every turn of the snake’s path. The video released by Osama Bin Laden on Sunday could have been pre-recorded months ago and left with one of his aides. The age old war strategy of giving "dis-information" to mislead the enemy might be at play here and now. Osama Bin Laden is cunning and a formidable terroristic foe. We should not be mislead.

I remember the most simple of military strategies from the Combat TV series way back when. Vic Morrow would always create a diversion on the German’s flank while the real attack was being conducted elsewhere. Military history is filled with battles won and lost through diversionary tactics. I do not believe Osama Bin Laden is in Afghanistan. I believe the Taliban is duping us; furthermore, I believe the World Trade Center and the Pentagon atrocities were the diversion and that something even bigger is planned.

Grasp this: Osama, cleaned up, could pass for any tall Middle Eastern businessman of Arabic descent. Cut the beard, the hair, put on an Armani suit, Ray Ban dark shades, silk turban and bleach the skin a bit and you would have a drastic transformation. Just maybe a little plastic surgery and voila a man that no one could recognize but his closest associates and his Mama. And just maybe he slipped across the Pakistani border in the dead of night long before September 11th. Could the terrorists have been meeting Osama in Las Vegas? So many questions are unanswered and so much supposition and guesswork are being spread. If the CIA has been trying to find him for over three years to no avail, what makes us believe he is still in Afghanistan? Many experts have stated on national television that we have very poor intelligence gathering means in place and that the CIA just may be outgunned on this one. My vote is still in my pocket.

How would Osama have left his beloved snake holes undetected and why would he leave a place harboring him in such grand seclusion. If he did leave there and come here, how did he enter the United States? It’s easy to lay out a hundred or more entry scenarios on how, when, why, who helped him and so on and so forth.

Here’s my scheme, in abbreviated format:
Cleaned up, as mentioned earlier, and in disguise as a wealthy businessman on July 11th he crosses the border into Pakistan. He is flown out of Pakistan on a Lear Jet marked like a corporate jet for a Saudi oil company. A change of planes, a few re-fuel stops later, and after a few days passed he is spirited by the PLO or some radical maniacal faction on board a merchant ship at some Egyptian port or other friendly port. The ship is bound for Savannah, Georgia or Jacksonville, Florida. He is secretly sealed inside a large fully self-contained and life supporting shipping container. The Captain and crew do not know of his presence.

Twelve days later, under a shroud of darkness, a chartered fishing boat from Brunswick, Georgia picks him. Later that night, he is put ashore on Jekyl Island and taken to a safe house owned by a shell corporation of al- Qaida. Disguised as an offshore oil worker he journeyed to Las Vegas in July, but then remained in hiding on Jekyl Island until September 10th. Traveling with a female companion and two children, in a Hertz rental car, he traveled to Washington D.C. The date, September 11th.

Now for the why I believe he came to the United States, if he did? He has brought Jihad, the Holy War, to a new battleground. He is destined, as a brazen, demented leader of the Jihad, to die a martyr’s death among the evildoers who have prostituted Allah. Osama Bin Laden knew that to remain in Afghanistan he would die labeled a terrorist and fanatical zealot, not a Holy One: in addition, he knew that many of his fellow believers would suffer and die needlessly. But first and foremost he wanted no victory, however slight, granted the enemy on his adopted homeland.

He is a master of disguise and just perhaps the most demented and cunning enemy we have ever faced. His war, not Islam’s, is with the West and therefore he must wage his Jihad in the West. Osama Bin Laden will wreak much more havoc before he prepares to die. He will leave this world by his own hands quietly and in secret. And this will be his ultimate defiant act, robbing the West of any justice, peace filled recovery or revenge; all the while leaving the Western World in an utter state of chaos and panic. Jihad will
continue for it is a cancer that spreads like the plague. It will be called by many, The Plague of Osama.

I colored outside the box…or did I really? We will succeed but we must move faster and with a Vision of no more death and destruction on our Homeland.

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