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To: Razorbak who wrote (9324)	10/11/2001 12:12:14 AM
From: kodiak_bull	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23153

Razorbak, You copied from the ACLU, <<"In other words, the government has the power to decide who to let into the country and under what circumstances. But once here, even undocumented immigrants have the right to freedom of speech and religion, the right to be treated fairly, the right to privacy, and the other fundamental rights U.S. citizens enjoy.">> I don't suspect that expedited deportation hearings for those here illegally or in violation of their visa status will abridge any illegal aliens' rights to be within our borders; nor will restrictions from now on about who can enter and for what purpose. The great thing about democracy and self-determination is that we get to rule ourselves, especially when the rules have to do with protecting citizens (also a Constitutional right of the government, and one might add, the paramount right of the government). I haven't visited the ACLU site but I can tell you that what they are printing are summaries of what they feel the law should be or can be interpreted as being. In short they are writing a brief; in our parlance, they are talking their position. Here's some more from that site, a pure statement of belief and brief for a position which wouldn't stand much scrutiny post 9/11: <<The 1996 immigration and antiterrorism laws passed by Congress in 1996 were steps backwards for refugees. Under the immigration law, the challenge to the discriminatory treatment of Salvadoran and Guatemalan refugees would have been impossible, because class action lawsuits are now banned. And for the first time in this country's history, the government can deport someone without any federal court review of a deportation order. The antiterrorism law allows the government to deport aliens based on evidence they cannot effectively challenge because it is secret. one federal court judge said of the practice of using secret evidence: "One would be hard pressed to design a procedure more likely to result in erroneous deprivations. . . . Secrecy is not congenial to truth-seeking.">> aclu.org As for these kinds of changes to the way things work here impinging on your or my enjoyment of the rights and privileges of American citizenship we have enjoyed up to now, I am simply reminded of the people aboard Flight 99 or 73, and how their rights and privileges were impinged. Or the way rights and privileges of the ground troops in Afghanistan will be curtailed by hot steel. Kb