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To: FrozenZ who wrote (2168)	10/11/2001 1:37:00 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie	Respond to of 14610

I am sure that one has something to do with the other, but I fail to see it. you may have been looking for this thread... Subject 51796

To: FrozenZ who wrote (2168)	10/11/2001 1:46:11 PM
From: Thomas M.	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 14610

I wouldn't say it's trite, but the American reaction is somewhat hypocritical. Heck, the U.S. exported anthrax and other bio/chem weapons to Saddam in the 1980s. <<< According to a Senate Committee Report of 1994 {1}: From 1985, if not earlier, through 1989, a veritable witch's brew of biological materials were exported to Iraq by private American suppliers pursuant to application and licensing by the U.S. Department of Commerce. Amongst these materials, which often produce slow, agonizing deaths, were: Bacillus Anthracis, cause of anthrax. Clostridium Botulinum, a source of botulinum toxin. Histoplasma Capsulatam, cause of a disease attacking lungs, brain, spinal cord and heart. Brucella Melitensis, a bacteria that can damage major organs. Clotsridium Perfringens, a highly toxic bacteria causing systemic illness. Clostridium tetani, highly toxigenic Also, Escherichia Coli (E.Coli); genetic materials; human and bacterial DNA. Dozens of other pathogenic biological agents were shipped to Iraq during the 1980s. The Senate Report pointed out: "These biological materials were not attenuated or weakened and were capable of reproduction." "It was later learned," the committee revealed, "that these microorganisms exported by the United States were identical to those the United Nations inspectors found and removed from the Iraqi biological warfare program." These exports continued to at least November 28, 1989 despite the fact that Iraq had been reported to be engaging in chemical warfare and possibly biological warfare against Iranians, Kurds, and Shiites since the early 80s. >>> globalpolicy.org Tom

To: FrozenZ who wrote (2168)	10/11/2001 7:37:25 PM
From: thames_sider	Respond to of 14610

Sorry, no. Your father cares. Terrorism is when someone you've never heard of, or heard mentioned only as a vague figure in esoteric political debates from elsewhere, decides that he (invariably he) needs to plant a bomb in your local bar or shopping mall to punish your country's leaders. Or when one of his adherents drives a truck- or plane-full of fuel into a nearby building, and he doesn't care who else dies so long as someone does. It's not about you. Maybe, it's about their hatred for whatever they see you as representing. But this is someone you never saw, or knew, or affected in any way (so far as you can ever know). You can't change their life, or pain, or the way of their death. They don't care if it's you who dies, or your parents, or your children, or none of the above... just so long as someone does. Someone like you. That's why it's terrorism. You've got no real connection to their aims, you can't avoid it... they just want to cause horror and heartbreak - to anyone who might be wherever they hit. Nothing personal.