Re: 10/5/01 - [OBIE] Obie Media repeatedly warns Yahoo posters about messages that "border on defamation"
About Obie Media
by: obiemedia 10/05/01 08:06 pm
Msg: 197 of 208
We at Obie Media regret that this chat room has been used to post a number of flatly erroneous messages and half truths that at times border on defamation of our company and its people. We are constrained by federal securities laws and our operational needs from responding to these misstatements in this forum. If you do have questions about Obie, or would like to hear our response to any specific matters raised in these messages, please submit them to us at <trobbins@obie.com> prior to our October 15, 2001 conference call and we will happily answer them in that public setting.
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Re: About Obie Media
by: ab08080 09/21/01 04:35 pm
Msg: 181 of 208
Probably not a good sign to see a company waste it's time during a business day to post a message on a silly yahoo message board. You'd think senior management has better things to do. I don't think this message board has anything to do with the current stock price.
Posted as a reply to: Msg 180 by obiemedia
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OBIE RUMORS
by: sjp9020 09/25/01 12:03 am
Msg: 182 of 208
AS A STOCKHOLDER, I HAVE DOUBTS ABOUT MUCH OF WHAT IS POSTED ON THIS MESSAGE BOARD. REGARDING THE LOSS OF CLEVELAND, THIS MARKET IS STILL LISTED ON THE OBIE WEB SITE,(OBIE.COM) AS IS MR. WAYNE SCHUR, WHO ACCORDING TO SOME LEAVING MESSAGES, IS NO LONGER NUMBER TWO IN CHARGE. IF ANY OF YOU ARE STOCKHOLDERS, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO WAIT FOR THE UPCOMING CONFERENCE CALL AND HOPE FOR THE BEST. IF YOU ARE COMPETITORS OR EX EMPLOYEES, PLEASE FIND ANOTHER WAY TO ENTERTAIN YOURSELVES!!! I AM IN THIS STOCK AT OVER $10.00 PER SHARE, AND YOUR FALSE RUMORS DO NOT HELP THE SITUATION. MOVE ON.
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more problems
by: chfcrzypup
Long-Term Sentiment: Strong Sell 09/27/01 11:35 am
Msg: 187 of 208
Richmond lawsuit against Obie is filed in Richmond District Court for monies owed the City.
Cleveland RTA was owed $800,000+ by Obie and Obie refused to pay, so they were removed by convenience of RTA.
Loan covenants may be tripped by Market Cap and earnings.
new auditors?
Brian Obie on board of advisors of Capital Consultants, closed down by SEC for ponzi scheme of over a billion dollars in defrauding investors. See search on The Oregonian newspaper archives. Many have been indicted already.
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More About Obie Media
by: justthefactsplease2001 09/28/01 12:11 am
Msg: 189 of 208
Although there have been rather defamatory remarks and comments in this forum, it is indeed fact that:
A) Obie has most definitely lost the Cleveland account due to its inability/unwillingness to meet the guaranteed minimum; and
B) Mr Wayne Schur has indeed left the employ of Obie Media, though it may be up to discussion as to whether he jumped the sinking ship or was pushed; and
C) Obie faces litigation in Richmond as a result of their performance there.
All three of these are facts that can be (and have been) confirmed by the public record or by people answering the phone at Obie offices.
Perhaps Mr. Robbins ought to worry less about what he wished to represent as "...flatly erroneous messages and half truths that at times border on defamation..." and worry more about the drastic downturn this company is taking. I'm quite sure that those of us who bought in at the higher end would appreciate a more focused effort.
Posted as a reply to: Msg 188 by obiemedia
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Re: About Obie Media
by: fea4321 09/29/01 09:06 am
Msg: 192 of 208
I SUPPOSE IF THERE WAS NO REALITY OR TRUTH TO THIS MESSAGE BOARD, TOBBIN ROBIN AS SR. VP. OF OBIE HAS JUST GIVEN IT CREDITABILITY. YOUR DAILY RESPONCES TO IT IS SOMETHING I NEVER SEEN DONE BY AN EXECUTIVE. YOU HAVE JUST GIVEN IT CREDITABILITY. THANK YOU TOBIN
Posted as a reply to: Msg 191 by obiemedia
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Chicago
by: marello1 10/04/01 01:17 pm
Msg: 194 of 208
Obie Media was recently tossed out of Cleveland for not paying the minimum guarantee to the transit authority there and is being sued by the transit authority in Richmond for stiffing that agency on its guarantee as well.
I understand that Obie’s minimum annual guarantee for year 2001 with the CTA in Chicago is in excess of $22,000,000.00 and that to date, Obie has paid the CTA only around 6-8 million.
I sincerely hope that on the Oct. 15th conference call - if not before – Obie will explain how in this dismal advertising climate it will be able to come up with the 15 or so million dollars it must pay the CTA within the next few months. Or, is losing Chicago part of some deliberate strategy the rest of us don’t understand.
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Re: About Obie Media
by: ab08080 10/05/01 10:23 am
Msg: 196 of 208
Dear ObieMedia:
It has become increasingly concerning to see your posts on this message board. As a stock holder who has bought into this company at over $8 a share I wish I would see efforts being done to increase the value of the company rather than efforts to defend negative posts on this message board. I've invested in many stocks and followed them on message boards, and never have I seen direct responses from a company. If everything was going smoothly and everything looked great for Obie Media, I can't believe Obie Media would take time to even look at this board. It is very concerning to see the immature approach Obie Media has taken, certainly not acting like a top notch leader in the industry. You will find nothing erroneous or half truthed in the message. Now please, take steps and show us leadership that will make this company increase in value, please.
Posted as a reply to: Msg 195 by obiemedia
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Re: About Obie Media
by: mmmmmellllloooooooman 10/06/01 11:58 am
Msg: 198 of 208
We at Obie Media regret that we don't know the difference between a chat room and a message board!! We regret that our erroneous confusion of the terms when posting on this MESSAGE BOARD is yet another indication to our invesstors that we really have no clue about contemporary business practices. For further examples of just how out of it we are, please feel free to join us on our October 15, 2001 conference call and we will happily display our ineptitude in that public setting.
Posted as a reply to: Msg 197 by obiemedia
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In response to Obie
by: chfcrzypup
Long-Term Sentiment: Strong Sell 10/07/01 11:19 pm
Msg: 199 of 208
OK, Obie PR man..
We will wait for your October 15th conference call and listen to the report...then we will confront your management on all the issue presented on this chat room board which we know are true, and then you will have your chance "live" and on the internet conference call to respond about: Richmond lawsuit, Cleveland RTA short payments by Obie and their purported claim against you and early contract termination, Schur resigning and no announcement, your CFO and Acounting manager quitting and no announcement then you change CPA'S?, Chicago performance, Dallas losses, your email to employees about your efforts to get out of transit contracts and the resulting story in the St. Louis Dispatch about "cash crunch at Obie", Or how about the Capital Consultants involvement by Brain Obie (on the advisory committee), the billion dollar ponzi-scheme scam and resulting indictments by the SEC. Is Brian a target? This must be disclosed. Has he testified?
OK, Mr. PR man. Be ready on October 15th for open mike day!!!
Many of us have invested in Obie based upon the growth promised by Obie, Will this be the third missed projection announcement and more losses?
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Here is your Chance
by: xfiles2034 10/09/01 05:38 pm
Msg: 202 of 208
Ok, I have been reading this board for a while, and it started out as honest traders talking about OBIE, until recently this board has gone down the tubes. I have purchased stock when it was high and when it's been low, so now is the time for those of you that seem to have a personal vendetta against Obie to step up to the plate and ask Obie yourself about these so called issues. The Obie conference call has been announced in a press release for Monday, October 15, 2001 at 4:30 p.m. ET. It’s time to put up or shut up and give us some honest opinions or facts. I for one will be listening in. For us real investors, if you look at all the media companies, everyone is in a slump right now due to the down turn in the economy, AK media being bought out and TDI/Viacom realigning itself again. Advertising is always the first to be hit during these times, but will rebound. I am in for the long haul.
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it is our chance...
by: justthefactsplease2001 10/10/01 01:11 am
Msg: 204 of 208
Xfiles is right -- the conference call is our chance to get answers from Obie. Obie can post a vague, albeit weak, disclaimer here every two days. The conference call is when the stockholders can hold Obie accountable!!
However, since they won't be taking live questions, those of us (and there are quite a few) who have posted valid concerns here MUST e-mail these concerns and questions to our board-buddy Mr. Tobin Robbins. (Even you Viacom visitors should e-mail your questions to Obie!) If we don't e-mail these concerns to Obie, they certainly won't address them in the conference call. Let them know you own stock and would like some accountability.
The very valid concerns:
- Loss of Wayne Schur
- loss of Cleveland
- lawsuit in Richmond
- serious problems in Houston, Kansas City, Chicago and St. Louis
Don't be fooled -- this conference call is not an open mike for disappointed investers! It is a conference call between top Obie executives who will release earnings (or non-earnings) information and discuss implications for the future (or non-future) of the company.
To get our concerns addressed, we MUST email them to trobbins@obie.com before October 15. As Tobin has said about 9 times in the last few weeks, "If you do have questions about Obie, or would like to hear our response to any specific matters raised in these messages, please submit them to us at <trobbins@obie.com> prior to our October 15, 2001 conference call and we will happily answer them in that public setting."
Certainly he must intend to follow through and "happily answer" our questions as he promised in this public forum (posting misleading comments might be a violation of those federal securities laws to which he so frequently refers).
I think many of you have raised very valid concerns and I hope you e-mail them to Obie!
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Conference Call Questions sent 9/21/01
by: cvosmik 10/10/01 01:34 pm
Msg: 205 of 208
Thanks for offering to take shareholder questions before the conference call.
Will you give us the information needed to value the two business segments: billboards and transit? Could you perhaps offer a separate P&L for the billboard segment or at least revenues and EBITDA?
Will you address the marketability of each segment in a liquidation scenario i.e. which companies (Clear, Viacom, Lamar, Prime, et al) might have an interest in acquiring the billboard plant. If you assume that the plant should sell for 10-14X EBITDA or 6x revenues what is the chance of this happening?
Please disclose the logic behind switching accountants.
Please disclose any personnel changes down to the VP level.
Please disclose the loss of any transit contracts.
Please quantify the guarantees that you have had to make on your top ten transit contracts.
I am taking it for granted that you will fully disclose why you felt you were justified to postpone the conference call. Blaming it on the recent bombing is extremely unprofessional.
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Re: Conference Call Questions sent 9/21
by: justthefactsplease2001 10/10/01 11:21 pm
Msg: 207 of 208
Great move sending those questions to Obie for discussion during the conference call. That is the only way we can demand accountability for their actions. I sent my questions, as well. I hope everyone else will, too!
Posted as a reply to: Msg 205 by cvosmik
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About Obie Media
by: obiemedia 10/05/01 08:06 pm
Msg: 197 of 208
We at Obie Media regret that this chat room has been used to post a number of flatly erroneous messages and half truths that at times border on defamation of our company and its people. We are constrained by federal securities laws and our operational needs from responding to these misstatements in this forum. If you do have questions about Obie, or would like to hear our response to any specific matters raised in these messages, please submit them to us at <trobbins@obie.com> prior to our October 15, 2001 conference call and we will happily answer them in that public setting.
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Re: About Obie Media
by: ab08080 09/21/01 04:35 pm
Msg: 181 of 208
Probably not a good sign to see a company waste it's time during a business day to post a message on a silly yahoo message board. You'd think senior management has better things to do. I don't think this message board has anything to do with the current stock price.
Posted as a reply to: Msg 180 by obiemedia
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OBIE RUMORS
by: sjp9020 09/25/01 12:03 am
Msg: 182 of 208
AS A STOCKHOLDER, I HAVE DOUBTS ABOUT MUCH OF WHAT IS POSTED ON THIS MESSAGE BOARD. REGARDING THE LOSS OF CLEVELAND, THIS MARKET IS STILL LISTED ON THE OBIE WEB SITE,(OBIE.COM) AS IS MR. WAYNE SCHUR, WHO ACCORDING TO SOME LEAVING MESSAGES, IS NO LONGER NUMBER TWO IN CHARGE. IF ANY OF YOU ARE STOCKHOLDERS, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO WAIT FOR THE UPCOMING CONFERENCE CALL AND HOPE FOR THE BEST. IF YOU ARE COMPETITORS OR EX EMPLOYEES, PLEASE FIND ANOTHER WAY TO ENTERTAIN YOURSELVES!!! I AM IN THIS STOCK AT OVER $10.00 PER SHARE, AND YOUR FALSE RUMORS DO NOT HELP THE SITUATION. MOVE ON.
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more problems
by: chfcrzypup
Long-Term Sentiment: Strong Sell 09/27/01 11:35 am
Msg: 187 of 208
Richmond lawsuit against Obie is filed in Richmond District Court for monies owed the City.
Cleveland RTA was owed $800,000+ by Obie and Obie refused to pay, so they were removed by convenience of RTA.
Loan covenants may be tripped by Market Cap and earnings.
new auditors?
Brian Obie on board of advisors of Capital Consultants, closed down by SEC for ponzi scheme of over a billion dollars in defrauding investors. See search on The Oregonian newspaper archives. Many have been indicted already.
messages.yahoo.com
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More About Obie Media
by: justthefactsplease2001 09/28/01 12:11 am
Msg: 189 of 208
Although there have been rather defamatory remarks and comments in this forum, it is indeed fact that:
A) Obie has most definitely lost the Cleveland account due to its inability/unwillingness to meet the guaranteed minimum; and
B) Mr Wayne Schur has indeed left the employ of Obie Media, though it may be up to discussion as to whether he jumped the sinking ship or was pushed; and
C) Obie faces litigation in Richmond as a result of their performance there.
All three of these are facts that can be (and have been) confirmed by the public record or by people answering the phone at Obie offices.
Perhaps Mr. Robbins ought to worry less about what he wished to represent as "...flatly erroneous messages and half truths that at times border on defamation..." and worry more about the drastic downturn this company is taking. I'm quite sure that those of us who bought in at the higher end would appreciate a more focused effort.
Posted as a reply to: Msg 188 by obiemedia
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Re: About Obie Media
by: fea4321 09/29/01 09:06 am
Msg: 192 of 208
I SUPPOSE IF THERE WAS NO REALITY OR TRUTH TO THIS MESSAGE BOARD, TOBBIN ROBIN AS SR. VP. OF OBIE HAS JUST GIVEN IT CREDITABILITY. YOUR DAILY RESPONCES TO IT IS SOMETHING I NEVER SEEN DONE BY AN EXECUTIVE. YOU HAVE JUST GIVEN IT CREDITABILITY. THANK YOU TOBIN
Posted as a reply to: Msg 191 by obiemedia
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Chicago
by: marello1 10/04/01 01:17 pm
Msg: 194 of 208
Obie Media was recently tossed out of Cleveland for not paying the minimum guarantee to the transit authority there and is being sued by the transit authority in Richmond for stiffing that agency on its guarantee as well.
I understand that Obie’s minimum annual guarantee for year 2001 with the CTA in Chicago is in excess of $22,000,000.00 and that to date, Obie has paid the CTA only around 6-8 million.
I sincerely hope that on the Oct. 15th conference call - if not before – Obie will explain how in this dismal advertising climate it will be able to come up with the 15 or so million dollars it must pay the CTA within the next few months. Or, is losing Chicago part of some deliberate strategy the rest of us don’t understand.
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Re: About Obie Media
by: ab08080 10/05/01 10:23 am
Msg: 196 of 208
Dear ObieMedia:
It has become increasingly concerning to see your posts on this message board. As a stock holder who has bought into this company at over $8 a share I wish I would see efforts being done to increase the value of the company rather than efforts to defend negative posts on this message board. I've invested in many stocks and followed them on message boards, and never have I seen direct responses from a company. If everything was going smoothly and everything looked great for Obie Media, I can't believe Obie Media would take time to even look at this board. It is very concerning to see the immature approach Obie Media has taken, certainly not acting like a top notch leader in the industry. You will find nothing erroneous or half truthed in the message. Now please, take steps and show us leadership that will make this company increase in value, please.
Posted as a reply to: Msg 195 by obiemedia
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Re: About Obie Media
by: mmmmmellllloooooooman 10/06/01 11:58 am
Msg: 198 of 208
We at Obie Media regret that we don't know the difference between a chat room and a message board!! We regret that our erroneous confusion of the terms when posting on this MESSAGE BOARD is yet another indication to our invesstors that we really have no clue about contemporary business practices. For further examples of just how out of it we are, please feel free to join us on our October 15, 2001 conference call and we will happily display our ineptitude in that public setting.
Posted as a reply to: Msg 197 by obiemedia
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In response to Obie
by: chfcrzypup
Long-Term Sentiment: Strong Sell 10/07/01 11:19 pm
Msg: 199 of 208
OK, Obie PR man..
We will wait for your October 15th conference call and listen to the report...then we will confront your management on all the issue presented on this chat room board which we know are true, and then you will have your chance "live" and on the internet conference call to respond about: Richmond lawsuit, Cleveland RTA short payments by Obie and their purported claim against you and early contract termination, Schur resigning and no announcement, your CFO and Acounting manager quitting and no announcement then you change CPA'S?, Chicago performance, Dallas losses, your email to employees about your efforts to get out of transit contracts and the resulting story in the St. Louis Dispatch about "cash crunch at Obie", Or how about the Capital Consultants involvement by Brain Obie (on the advisory committee), the billion dollar ponzi-scheme scam and resulting indictments by the SEC. Is Brian a target? This must be disclosed. Has he testified?
OK, Mr. PR man. Be ready on October 15th for open mike day!!!
Many of us have invested in Obie based upon the growth promised by Obie, Will this be the third missed projection announcement and more losses?
messages.yahoo.com
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Here is your Chance
by: xfiles2034 10/09/01 05:38 pm
Msg: 202 of 208
Ok, I have been reading this board for a while, and it started out as honest traders talking about OBIE, until recently this board has gone down the tubes. I have purchased stock when it was high and when it's been low, so now is the time for those of you that seem to have a personal vendetta against Obie to step up to the plate and ask Obie yourself about these so called issues. The Obie conference call has been announced in a press release for Monday, October 15, 2001 at 4:30 p.m. ET. It’s time to put up or shut up and give us some honest opinions or facts. I for one will be listening in. For us real investors, if you look at all the media companies, everyone is in a slump right now due to the down turn in the economy, AK media being bought out and TDI/Viacom realigning itself again. Advertising is always the first to be hit during these times, but will rebound. I am in for the long haul.
messages.yahoo.com
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it is our chance...
by: justthefactsplease2001 10/10/01 01:11 am
Msg: 204 of 208
Xfiles is right -- the conference call is our chance to get answers from Obie. Obie can post a vague, albeit weak, disclaimer here every two days. The conference call is when the stockholders can hold Obie accountable!!
However, since they won't be taking live questions, those of us (and there are quite a few) who have posted valid concerns here MUST e-mail these concerns and questions to our board-buddy Mr. Tobin Robbins. (Even you Viacom visitors should e-mail your questions to Obie!) If we don't e-mail these concerns to Obie, they certainly won't address them in the conference call. Let them know you own stock and would like some accountability.
The very valid concerns:
- Loss of Wayne Schur
- loss of Cleveland
- lawsuit in Richmond
- serious problems in Houston, Kansas City, Chicago and St. Louis
Don't be fooled -- this conference call is not an open mike for disappointed investers! It is a conference call between top Obie executives who will release earnings (or non-earnings) information and discuss implications for the future (or non-future) of the company.
To get our concerns addressed, we MUST email them to trobbins@obie.com before October 15. As Tobin has said about 9 times in the last few weeks, "If you do have questions about Obie, or would like to hear our response to any specific matters raised in these messages, please submit them to us at <trobbins@obie.com> prior to our October 15, 2001 conference call and we will happily answer them in that public setting."
Certainly he must intend to follow through and "happily answer" our questions as he promised in this public forum (posting misleading comments might be a violation of those federal securities laws to which he so frequently refers).
I think many of you have raised very valid concerns and I hope you e-mail them to Obie!
messages.yahoo.com
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Conference Call Questions sent 9/21/01
by: cvosmik 10/10/01 01:34 pm
Msg: 205 of 208
Thanks for offering to take shareholder questions before the conference call.
Will you give us the information needed to value the two business segments: billboards and transit? Could you perhaps offer a separate P&L for the billboard segment or at least revenues and EBITDA?
Will you address the marketability of each segment in a liquidation scenario i.e. which companies (Clear, Viacom, Lamar, Prime, et al) might have an interest in acquiring the billboard plant. If you assume that the plant should sell for 10-14X EBITDA or 6x revenues what is the chance of this happening?
Please disclose the logic behind switching accountants.
Please disclose any personnel changes down to the VP level.
Please disclose the loss of any transit contracts.
Please quantify the guarantees that you have had to make on your top ten transit contracts.
I am taking it for granted that you will fully disclose why you felt you were justified to postpone the conference call. Blaming it on the recent bombing is extremely unprofessional.
messages.yahoo.com
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Re: Conference Call Questions sent 9/21
by: justthefactsplease2001 10/10/01 11:21 pm
Msg: 207 of 208
Great move sending those questions to Obie for discussion during the conference call. That is the only way we can demand accountability for their actions. I sent my questions, as well. I hope everyone else will, too!
Posted as a reply to: Msg 205 by cvosmik
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