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To: long-gone who wrote (78315)	10/11/2001 4:44:09 PM
From: Richnorth	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116752

Interesting! In Italy, Moslems have been buying abandoned decrepit/dilapidated church buildings in recent years and refurbishing them into mosques. And this, in combination with a significant number Westerners embracing Islam have got the Roman Catholic Church and lots of Italians very concerned. According to some of my Muslim friends, God (Allah) sent Mohammed as his last prophet because the Christians, in consequence of their infighting and squabbling over diverse interpretations of the Bible which incidentally was written by several people (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John etc, & et al) and arbitrarily put together by a synod of bishops in 325 AD at Nicae, had sort of "screwed up" Jesus' original message. In order to obviate diverse interpretations, the Muslims' Holy Book, the Qu'ran, was written by Mohammed and no one else: he reportedly wrote down every word dictated to him by Allah's angel, Gabriel (the same Gabriel of the Bible). In the Qu'ran there are numerous mention of Biblical characters, e.g., Abraham; Musa = Moses; Daoud = David; Isa = Jesus and so on, and also similar accounts of events associated with them. But Jesus is merely regarded as a prophet. Yet any common relationship is seemingly ignored, and ever since the 6th century, the clash between Christendom and the Islamic world has never ceased. BTW, the DNA of Arabs and Jews are practically identical, attesting to their historical common origin from Abraham. (Jews and Arabs are Semites or Semitic peoples) Isn't it an irony that brothers are locked in eternal mortal combat?

To: long-gone who wrote (78315)	10/12/2001 3:31:48 AM
From: E. Charters	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 116752

I see where a professor of Islamic studies conducted a survey of educated Saudi Arabians recently and found that 100% of the women and 85% of the men supported Ossama bin Laden. They did not say in this study whether the paricipants thought he was guilty of bombing the WTC, or the embassy in Kenya or the SS Cole. I think in light of the results of this study, that the US government has a tad more of a problem on its hands with Muslim countries than it thinks, or will admit publicly. And possibly a tad more a problem with Muslims than it thinks. Irrespective of a Muslims' right to their opinion on the Palestinian refugee question and the Israeli treatment of the Palestinians with regard to Statehood or homelands, it would appear that backing of, the violent "solution" of the terroristic and purposeful killing of civilians en masse, or any one accused of that act, is an extremist position. According to the survey, educated Saudi's and probably by implication, most Muslims, are extremists and violently opposed to the USA. This is very disturbing. No matter how many educated Muslims inveigh with soothing words about rabble rousing press, the supposed limited numbers of extremists, and lack or support for violence, the results of the study speak volumes about whether we can ever eventually come to agreements that will guarantee peace in the ME. Can we even believe the sincerity of these moderate Islamic apologist's words? Are these pious pronouncements of peace and harmony merely cynical apologia, designed to lull our senses into a false sense of security? We would like to believe not. Why not replace these words with deeds, if they so fervently hold them? If we cannot convince the Muslims that backing a Hitler like figure is inimical to our values then we must put them as a politico-religious group on the pariah list, and act with all concern, caution, and prejudice to protect our lives, our property and our future. Otherwise, given time, the opposedness of these people, their fanatical zeal and their apparent predisposition to cruelty and violence, we won't have secure future. EC<:-}