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To: Thomas M. who wrote (7812)	10/12/2001 1:22:21 PM
From: JakeStraw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 45639

Survivor Contest Week 5 JakeStraw - St. Louis (Goin' against my Gi'nts, but I'm a realist :^)

To: Thomas M. who wrote (7812)	10/12/2001 1:29:25 PM
From: Augustus Gloop	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 45639

<<Notice how easily you shift from unfounded personal attacks on Janikowski to unfounded personal attacks on me>> I didn't shift easily at all. You continued to badger me on a subject that I believe you have little or no understanding of. Anyone who knows anything about this drug knows what it has been used for. To carry it also comes with stigma that is well deserved. So....I don't care if you don't like my opinion or not. Don't post to me if you don't like my opinion. But don't test me and expect me not to respond in a critical way. Your view of BHG being ok to carry and use if FLAT WRONG! The NFL says it, The LAW says it and so do the 1000'S OF YOUNG WOMEN WHO WERE RAPED. A good liberal such as yourself should feel care and concern over such an issue. My how times change. GROW UP!

To: Thomas M. who wrote (7812)	10/14/2001 6:23:56 PM
From: Augustus Gloop	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 45639

Tom M, Now that I have had moment to sit back allow me to do a couple things here. First allow me to clarify my position. It's not that I have Jankowski convicted for rape. I'm also not that bothered by the use of drugs by athletes. In fact I think in some ways we go too far with drug testing. What bothers me is the type of drug he was walking around with. Now clearly just possession of this substance does not make him guilty of rape. But in MANY cases that is what this substance is and has been used for. We also have a case here where this is the second time this guy has had problems with the same drug. Furthermore I don't even think Jankowski is a citizen of the United States. Now...to assume he is a rapist is not fair nor can it be prosecuted because no such event took place. But the connotations of this drug are far more serious than many other drugs. Having said that allow me to address another issue. The reason I popped off at you the other day was because I didn't think you took the history of this substance seriously. It is my personal belief that because of the way this drug has been used ( cloaked in drinks etc.) that the potential for wrong doing on an terribly evil level is very high. So I tend to be kind of a Nazi when it comes to this particular BHG. That said I want to apologize for the personal shots I took. I still believe my message is correct but the way that I delivered it was wrong. I also think that this type of board should be above that level of discourse as it is meant for fun. So I apologize to you for my behavior and I want you and everyone else on this board to know that I'm man enough to admit my mistakes. Anyhow......Sorry. Gloop