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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: s.jennings who wrote (32308)10/12/2001 9:47:15 PM
From: thames_sider  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
6000 innocent people died
Agreed, that's objective. that's fact. (assuming none of them was in some way not innocent, but that's a quibble).

because of the dangerous ignorance of others.
But that's opinion. I'd say it was their murderous knowledge and willingness to die. bin Laden claims that they are heroes, martyrs to their faith, and probably they knew all they needed.
Three people and already three views.
I personally agree that the 'objective' view would term it vicious murder... but I don't claim that I can speak for some extra-universal observer and say that such IS the objective truth.

When you're dealing with people's beliefs, motivations, thoughts, there surely cannot be any objective truth, however hatefilled, vile or abominable their thoughts - and resultant deeds... each person is at best true to themselves.
The world still revolves around the sun, regardless.



To: s.jennings who wrote (32308)10/12/2001 11:45:38 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
6000 people died
The terrorists appear to have been religiously motivated
Whether they were ignorant or not is another question
Lots of people believe things and are SURE they know (and would deny they are ignorant)
There are people here on this thread who are sure they know there are "absolutes" of some sort
they "believe" this- since they obviously can't prove it scientifically
are they ignorant?