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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Solon who wrote (32316)	10/12/2001 10:36:59 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Solon, I did not say that the WTC attackes killed for money. I said rather that "when punks kill for money, or for revenge or..." These particular punks killed themselves and thousands of others because of hatred and/or the percieved rewards of paradise. Other punks kill for other reasons. 99 % of the people slaughtered in history owe their death to this phenomenom. I think that stat is probably innacurate and I don't know how you could even have accurate information about it, but the majority of people killed in the 20th century where not killed because of visions about the afterlife. WWI, WWII, and the killings of Stalin, Hitler, and Mao had little to do with visions of the afterlife. Most everyday "retail" murders also have no connection to such beliefs. "Relativists can hate and kill as much as anyone else" Sure they can. But they have less reason to. They are not being threatened by the agony of ETERNAL torture, and they are not being extorted with the promise of eternal uselessness. Absolutists might have more reason to kill but they also have more reason not to kill. If they believe in hell and they think the killing is absolutly wrong then the might face enternal torture for killing with no chance of getting away, while the secular relativist only faces the chance that he might be caught by the cops. Even if they don't believe in hell or an afterlife they face doing something they think is absolutly wrong rather then something that may or may not be wrong depending on the circumstances or opinions of those involved. Tim