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To: 4rthofjuly007 who wrote (129131)	10/13/2001 12:23:34 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

assemble the right coalition including Eastern Europe and Russia. Aside there are many ways to topple a government without going into a big mess. How about some chess playing ........ e.g. bring democracy to Iran first and return their system as in UK. After all they have a Shah still living in the US. ............ next other countries around Saudi Arabia and then the final move. Besides with the proper communication we may alter the view of the masses toward their own royal family and toward the West. People may be uneducated ignorant and primitive but not dump. Think OUT OF THE BOX Haim

To: 4rthofjuly007 who wrote (129131)	10/13/2001 1:22:17 PM
From: marginmike	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

As an entepeneur there is one thing ive learned. When a situation is Messy, the only thing to do is prepare and deal with it. Pretending it doesnt exist, or maintaining the status quo will only delay the inevitable. The Saudi regime will come down eventially with or without our help. In history all represive oligarchies and Kingdoms through time evolved or were overthrown. If Saudi is overthrown and the US needs to deal with him and Saddam then lets start to prepare for that. Firstly by gearing our millitary up. secondly spending whatever it takes to reduce our dependency on oil, as well as forge better bond's with the Soviet Union whom cis the biggest Oil producer in the world. I see message opon message about "how do we walk on egg shells and not upset our so called allies". This is stupid, they are not our allies, and have helped as much as any nation in the arming and protecting of terrorist's. We have a huge problem, and its not going away easily. Until people except that fact this will never be solved. Americans have been blown out of their offices, and our media has been attacked by Bio chemichal weapons(as well as some companies it seems). These attacks have STRONG links to Pakistan and Saudi as well as bin laden. If nothing beyond the financial links, these are Paki and Saudi National's conducting attacks. WAKE UP AMERICA THIS IS NOT A TV WAR THEY ARE COMING TO HARM YOU IN YOUR HOME AND OFFICE! So lets call up the reserves, and pay whatever political and economic cost to ELIMINATE the enemies who attack us. I include SA, Egypt, Pakistan as well. Its only a matter of time before these bio attacks turn radioactive. Then what? The time clock is working against us to prevent Nuklear oblivian, because at the point we are attacked with a nuke, what will be the response? The Nuke will have been paid for by SA money developed in Pakistan, Iran, and Iraq. Then what? I say maybee we are at war with certain Arab states beyond terrorists. If we dont admit it I fear(living in NYC) that I wont be arround when we finally figure it out.