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To: 2MAR$ who wrote (5017)	10/14/2001 9:23:01 PM
From: bela_ghoulashi	Respond to of 281500

>>What would our response be then ? That response should be our response now not "then".<< I agree whole-heartedly. Good post (and I meant to say so earlier, before the thread was suddenly and inexplicably annexed by Finland).

To: 2MAR$ who wrote (5017)	10/14/2001 10:17:48 PM
From: SirRealist	Respond to of 281500

I largely agree with Sir Keegan and you 2MAR$, particularly about acting in offense, not defensively, and using surprise above all, as the chief weapon. I break ranks, for the present, with the idea that any deployment.... er, I mean use, of nuclear weapons is necessary, yet. I believe the opposition has the means to use nuclear as a radiological weapon, but lacks the capacity for a massive detonation on any par with Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But that sabre should be rattled loudly. Bush got that part right when he said no option is ruled out.... I was actually surprised that the peace groups have not yet recognized this is NOT an empty threat, but a military necessity. And why do I feel certain the enemies do not possess the capacity to create aviable nuclear explosion? Certainly not from any assessments of our intelligence agencies. I believe it because Israel intelligence has not found it yet. As they've demonstrated before, they'll strike BEFORE such capacity exists. That capacity of Israel is a part of the oft-misunderstood relationship we have there. True, we will act in its defense. But conversely, we depend on them, too. Every call to end that alliance will be met with rebuke, so the Arabs who seek otherwise will never gain that wish. As to demonstrating our 'resolve' this time, I certainly have learned enough about Afghani fighters and extremist fundamentalists to know that surrenders on their side will not be gained easily. I have hoped that our Special Forces will be trained specifically not just to the task of aiming well, but of ferociousness afterwards, as well. The sooner it is learned we mean business this time, the sooner it will become clear to the opposition that these methods they employ are doomed to complete failure. If necessary, that DOES mean nukes. Bullies can be cowed but fanatics have to be defeated.