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To: Ilaine who wrote (2809)10/16/2001 2:35:48 PM
From: el_gaviero  Respond to of 36161
 
Cobalt Blue -- re: feminism (OT)
If I were asked to define the key difference between Western Civilization and every other one, I would say that the difference boils down to this: the Western tradition embodies a great measure of respect for women.

The genius of the western tradition has been to develop ways for women to be women, and men to be men. Working together, the two sexes in our tradition formed a human world that was vital, creative and tough.

Women have been at the heart of this process. Let me give an example. One of the first results of the industrial revolution in England was an explosion in drunkenness. Apparently, what happened is that poor farm laborers, who got factory jobs and managed to put together a bit of money, spent their money on drink.

However, over time, using their ways and wiles -- religion, social pressure, a concern for respectability, “keeping up with the Jones” -- women got these men civilized enough to be, on the whole, rather competent fathers and providers. The incidence of drunkenness fell through out the 19th century.

Compare Victorian women with their sisters who in the 1970s created feminism.

Feminists writers of the 1970s drove a wedge between man and woman. This was no problem for them. They had been educated at the Seven Sisters, and if they couldn’t get a well-paying job, they could fall back upon a trust fund or inheritance from dear ole Granddad. For an ordinary woman, however, feminism was a disaster. It took away precisely what she needed to be powerful (and work her magic on the simple-minded male primate of the species): traditional morality, community, a rich fabric of relationships.


To suggest, as you do, that feminism stands between us and the Taliban is to perfectly misunderstand the problem (which is why I have gotten on a soap box). It was the slowly developing Western tradition that created the milieu in which women could be powerful. Feminists, who consider every aspect of our history before 1970 tainted by “male chauvinism,” “racism”, etc, etc., set themselves the task of destroying the Western tradition. Precisely because women have power in the West, feminists writers have been rather successful. The joke however is on them. The uncivilized man now emerging in our midst is too unrefined to appreciate or even notice the other-ness of women -- except of course as sexual partners.

One result: thirty percent of the children born here in North Carolina are illegitimate, and the number of children growing up with both biological parents is amazingly reduced.

It may be an extreme statement to say that feminism will lead to Taliban-ism in the West, but it sure looks to me as if the feminists are playing with a kind of fire from which women stand to be badly burned -- heck, already ARE getting badly burned.