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To: Poet who wrote (33002)	10/15/2001 12:14:40 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 82486

I can't think of any friends I have who are not extremely tolerant. If people aren't fairly tolerant they can't be my friends, nor would they probably want to be, but even if they did, they couldn't be. :-)

To: Poet who wrote (33002)	10/15/2001 12:28:57 PM
From: thames_sider	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

To be honest, I'm in some agreement with JC here (Dithers rather than the Greg version). I don't really care whether someone's gay or not - if it's a girl I find attractive, I'll obviously have more interest (yes, one did tell me rather late), but otherwise I don't really care. Although, oddly enough, a lot of people - men more than women - think I'm gay when they first meet me... I'm more amused than otherwise. Especially as some women definitely decide that this is interesting (or want 'proof' that I'm not - honestly... I've started with two girlfriends (at least) via this route. AFAIK no gay man has ever thought I'm gay <g>

To: Poet who wrote (33002)	10/15/2001 3:35:29 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

You guys sure were busy this morning giving me things to think about. I woke up early, wrote a few posts, had breakfast, and proceeded to fall back to sleep waking again after noon. Indolence, thy name is Karen. On my way to pick up some Ethiopian take-out for lunch, I reflected on your post and X's. Here's my take. To me it's also important to know someone is gay I don't care if anyone is gay. My friends are mostly strait, as is most of the population, and I have friends who are gay. And I have friends I've known for years who may or may not be gay. The subject never came up. As I read your post, I can see why it would be different for you. We socialize differently. You and X socialize regularly as part of a couple. I don't. During most of my adult life I was part of one couple or another but even then rarely socialized in couple mode, even when I was married. And I really can't remember the last time I entertained friends in my home. When I socialize, it's with one or more friends for a meal or sport or show. I've often announced here, in Neo mode, that I'm off to lunch with a friend. Could be a man or woman, gay or strait. In that environment, there's no reason whatsoever to be cognizant of that person's sexual orientation or whether or not there's a significant other. You also present yourself as a sexual entity. You mentioned that in another post today and you present yourself that way here on SI. At this point in my life, I think of myself and my friends as pretty much androgynous entities. I have friends who are men and friends who are women and I don't interact with them any differently based on gender. My companions for an event could just as easily me men or women or a mix. I guess I might be less likely to invite a male friend to join an outing to a WNBA game, but that's about as far as the distinction goes. For all practical purposes, it doesn't matter. I have a friend of several years whom I met when she adopted a cat I was fostering. I've been in the her home many times. Over the years I've come to think that her "roommate" is her "partner" but we've never had occasion to discuss our love lives although we've discussed all sorts of other personal things. If a situation ever presents itself where I need to know if they are a couple rather than roommates, I'll ask her. Just another perspective... Karen