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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TimF who wrote (33361)	10/16/2001 5:57:27 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

If it is the same, I used to go to the Brickskeller about 25 years ago, when home from college.....

To: TimF who wrote (33361)	10/16/2001 6:15:15 PM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 82486

Its a bar called the Brickskeller in DC. I told X that I would check some of the big liquor stores in the city. I haven't been to one since Central Liquor closed. You probably weren't old enough to drink when that happened. I'll let you know if I find any lambic.

To: TimF who wrote (33361)	10/16/2001 10:59:44 PM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Hi Tim Greg - If you are reading this do you think sex is immoral in and of itself? That would depend on what you mean by sex. If you mean the acts that people do together then I believe there is always a moral context to sex. Sex within the parameters set down by God is most definitely moral, because it is the fulfilment of the God given purpose. God created Man and Woman as sexual beings. Since my definition of what is immoral, is the same biblical definition that I would ascribe to sinfulness, it might be helpful to come up with a definition of sin. The main concept for sin used in the New Testament comes from the Greek word "hamartia" which means to miss the mark. To miss the mark, or "sin" is what archers do when they miss the target. Biblically the "Target" is that which correlates with the character, and commands, of God Himself. More generally it can be said that "sin" is that which deviates from it's designed purpose. Since a Man and a Woman were created to fulfill one another in every way possible,(including sexually), then sex between a man and a woman, specifically a husband and a wife is not sinful, ie immoral. So no, sex within it's designed parameters is inherently good, indeed it is very good. "He who aims at nothing, is bound to hit it." I know I make the same point over and over again, but perhaps in this context it might be a little clearer to some, so I will chance repeating it yet again. If we live in a strictly material universe, one devoid of plan and purpose, a universe that has no room for a personal holy God, or ultimates of any kind, then there is no target. If there is no target, then there is nothing to aim for. If there is nothing to aim for, then we can not say to any one, "You have sinned". Sin does not exist, good and evil, do not exist! But they do......hmmmm, what was it that Sherlock Holmes said; "How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?"