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To: Bill Harmond who wrote (132998)10/17/2001 7:51:00 PM
From: craig crawford  Respond to of 164684
 
>> We give up our "personal liberties" every time we stop for a traffic light. <<

we surrender that personal liberty to laws enacted by our own government, which is chosen by our own people to represent us. if we decide later on that we don't like having to stop for traffic lights we can choose to change the law. that is different than surrendering control to a foreign or outside authority where we don't retain the sovereign right to unilaterally decide.

that is the difference my friend...



To: Bill Harmond who wrote (132998)10/17/2001 9:47:38 PM
From: H James Morris  Respond to of 164684
 
Simply amazing.
>October 17, 2001

NEW YORK – Slogging ahead through the swampy global economy, IBM Corp. reported a 19 percent drop in its third quarter earnings, but still managed to turn a profit.



To: Bill Harmond who wrote (132998)10/18/2001 3:45:44 AM
From: craig crawford  Respond to of 164684
 
"The world has never had a good definition of the word liberty ...We all declare for liberty: but in using the same word, we do not mean the same thing."

--Abraham Lincoln