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To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (129947)10/17/2001 10:17:43 PM
From: James F. Hopkins  Respond to of 436258
 
Thanx Haim; Golda Meyer that was the name; my memory
is getting as old as I am, she was wiser than many
thought. And her "Peace won't come until they love
their children more than they hate us" was to the
point.
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The scope and complexity that I've encountered
with Muslems is limited but it was enough to exptrapolate from and conclude that not even an expert could digest the full scope of it all. Also I'm sure it's beyond even the ablity of their own experts, however taht presents a delimia that no expert seems humble enough to admit.

If any meaningful and lasting changes are to be made
they are going to have to be created by the muslems
themself. How they can tolaorate even an offshoot of their
brothers using their own children as human bombs speaks
volumes of how Islam fails the basic test of being
a crediable Religion in the sence of improving
the character of it's own members.

My study of Malcom X caused me to give Islam more credit
than it deserved, while I saw a transformation in him
it seems now to be an exception to the general rule,
In 1964 he made a pilgrimage to Islam's holy city, Mecca, and adopted the name El-Hajj Malik El Shabazz. He
then also adopted views that were not popular with other black muslims , including the idea
that not all whites were evil.
As a result of Malcolm's new views, he became the victim of death threats. On February 14, 1965, his home was firebombed; his wife and children escaped unharmed. A week
later, on the 21st, Malcolm was shot and killed at the Audubon Ballroom in Harlem. Three of the men arrested were identified as members of the Nation of Islam.
There was an obvious conpsircy that went beyound
the three arrested however the Nation of Islam and
as no other American Islam movement appears to have done diddley crap to expose the conspiricy behind his assination.
While it's given there are some good muslims the fact
that as a whole they continue to go on knowing
there was a conspircy but live in denial of it;
causeses me to conclude that as a Religion they are
morally backrupt. Out side of America it also appears
that if any Muslim of position takes up the cause
of peace he winds up being assasated by his brother
muslims, that happens over and over and creates
a delima of the sort taht renders trying to live
in peace with them is nothing short of commiting
suiside by proxy.
Jim