If you cannot adhere to decent conversation without getting personal, please do not post to me.
Sir, I know nothing "personal" about you whatsoever. Yet, you say this, while in the same post you state:
I think you need to go join the Ku Klux Klan or something as violent. YOURE the one who have such extreme views on everything.
I have stated that those who have murdered innocent countrymen and women of mine, and those who incite similar behavior, or condone it with deeply offensive, callous and disgracefully two-faced statements and actions, murderous attempts at self-justification, are enemies of the United States and its European friends. Your statements here are close cousin to these.
Tell me, why are you inciting people against Saudi and against Islam ?
You, Sir, are not informed. Please read the following, an article which I translated into English and sent to The Washington Post, where, subsequently, it was published:
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This was a sensitive and thoughtful plea for moderates of Islam to speak out against the radicals, who have murdered thousands of innocent citizens, and whose actions are now being justified by lying miscreants such as yourself.
There is no nobler feeling than that of loving your country, your religion.
Oh, really? So "there is no nobler feeling" than being a German in 1933 who loves his country, enlists in the SS, joins full-bore in Kristallnacht and subsequently becomes Commandant of the Auschwitz murder factory? Or murdering Americans and other "infidels" in the name of Saladin? I see.
But showing other cultures and religions down - well, thats not what my parents taught me.
If any state, culture or religion, or its most vocal leaders, preaches - much less openly teaches, I shall not say brainwashes the young, impressionable and innocent into, its next generation - ignorance, hate and intolerance, celebrates murder of those who follow a different path, or allows itself to be taken hostage by elements from within which wish to do so, with nary a word of protest, then there there are grave questions as to the legitimacy of these states, cultures and religions which glorify evil acts.
My nationality may surprise you.
You did not state it. Whatever, it is unimportant to me. Your words and attitudes are, not because of their individual source, but rather, what they represent.
By the way, I am a dual national, of the Netherlands and the United States. I am first generation American. My family has a history dating back to the early 16th century in Amsterdam. My great-great-great-great grandfather, Johan Rudolf Thorbecke, three times Prime Minister of the Netherlands, is credited with writing the Grondwet (1848), or Dutch Constitution, a work he was assigned by King William II of Orange, one of the first documents of any great standing to offer equal rights between different religious faiths.
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My great-great grandfather, T.M.C. Asser was awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace in 1911, for organizing international peace conferences in the Hague and Paris. The body which he co-founded, the Institut de droit international, was likewise awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace in 1904, as were a number of his colleagues, including Louis Renault of France (1907).
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[If you think this is misplaced, well, my grandfather, 93, named after my ancestor Thorbecke, when I asked him a year ago what to say if I came across the likes of you anytime in my life, he said: "Let them know who you and your family are. After all, you speak similarly to how my grandfather did."]
Hating the government, for their bad policies is one thing, but hating their ethnicity, their culture and their way of life - well, surprise surprise, you are the one who reminds me of someone who hated certain people of certain religion...
In my statements this evening I did not once speak of culture, ethnicity or religion. I spoke of nation-states and citizens. You're a liar and twister of words for your own perverted ends which have now become quite transparent.
I think you choose to ignore stories of how Mexican girls are brought here under false pretexts and kept locked up for prostitution.
You surely do jest. The United States recognizes and abides by international laws as they pertain to human rights, and also maintains and enforces a long list of statutes barring rape and slavery. The same cannot be said for the state known as the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
Are you aware that it is a violation of international law for a nation to knowingly fund, support, direct and instruct its citizens to travel to a foreign country to attempt to secure the violent overthrow of a state which is signatory to certain international treaties and agreements? Perhaps you do not, but nevertheless your denial or ignorance of these facts does not change the fact. Saudi Arabia has violated a vast number of international laws, treaties and covenants to which it is a signatory.
I am now in the process of writing a piece exposing the lawlessness of this state, and it shall shortly be published in a newspaper of national repute here in the United States, and also one in the Netherlands.
As for you and your dishonest and pathetic propagandic rants here, I shall no longer respond. I think you yourself have bared your true nature here, and admirably.
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