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To: Machaon who wrote (7906)	10/19/2001 9:02:26 AM
From: joseph krinsky	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 27666

Maybe si should have a thread to raise money to send those four to afganistan for a few weeks to live with the taliban and learn first hand what life would be like for them under a talibanistic regime. ;-)

To: Machaon who wrote (7906)	10/19/2001 10:09:07 AM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 27666

More smoke and mirrors by our local Israel amen corner. When hard facts and damaging information is presented, the Zionist take on their clown disguise and attempt to divert the mind from the relevant information. "Robert Barry" is a Jewish/Zionist activist and spends 7/24 defending and advancing the Zionist/Israeli agenda. He attempts to color eveyrthing with a Zionist brush! He accuses others of using bogus aliases because that is precisely the kind of deception Zionists have used since l948!

To: Machaon who wrote (7906)	10/19/2001 10:39:50 AM
From: Michael Watkins	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 27666

As off-track as I believe Emile is, I'm quite certain that he is not Len Grasso as well. Len has opinions and is a thinker, you can tell by his posts that he is thoughtful even if some of his opinions are contrary to yours. He is trying to get you to think, not trying to ram an opinion down your throat. Unlike Emile. But Emile, I'm afraid to say, isn't just ramming opinions - he clearly has lost the ability to think openly and clearly. You can tell from the way he writes and responds. His mind was made up long ago and he is well practiced in his particular form of "debating". You should not let either of them get under your skin, as an American you are supposed to cherish the right of the individual to express opinions. In Canada, we have freedom of speech as well. But, as a Canadian, I also relish the right of the state to arrest people that cross the line from expressing opinion to promoting hatred! [ I don't think Len likes that law of ours ;) but I don't have to agree, or disagree, with all of his thoughts. ]

To: Machaon who wrote (7906)	10/19/2001 4:13:34 PM
From: Elmer Flugum	Respond to of 27666

Shame on you, Robert Barry...

To: Machaon who wrote (7906)	10/20/2001 12:00:20 PM
From: Thomas M.	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 27666

The truth comes out! The Taliban-bashers are merely anti-Semites in disguise. -g- sfgate.com Taliban may have origin in ancient tribe of Israel - Anthropologist finds many similarities Frank Viviano, Chronicle Staff Writer Saturday, October 20, 2001 Jerusalem -- Preoccupied with their own terrorist war at home, Israelis have paid less attention than the rest of the world to the campaign against Afghanistan's ruling Taliban. Just as well, says an Israeli anthropologist -- because the Taliban might have had Jewish origins. According to Shalva Weil, there is considerable body of evidence suggesting that the Pathan ethnic group, from which most of the Taliban are drawn, is one of the fabled "10 lost tribes" of ancient Israel. Indeed, as recently as half a century ago, Pathan tribesmen themselves claimed that they were descended from wandering Jews. Writing in the weekly magazine "Jerusalem Report," Weil cites a report delivered to Israeli President Yitzhak Ben-Zvi in the 1950s, based on the encounter of a Jewish traveler with Pathan nomads. The Pathans, who are also called Pashtuns, were said to wear cloaks decorated with a symbol that closely resembled the lamps lit by Jews at Hanukkah. The traveler also reported that they donned prayer shawls similar to those of their Jewish counterparts in the West, insisted that men grow side curls, and lit votive candles on Friday evenings, the beginning of the Jewish Sabbath. Some anthropologists have also found Pathan families that circumcise sons on the eighth day after their birth, in keeping with Jewish custom. A legend of the Pathans, as recounted to Weil when she did field research among them in the 1980s along the Pakistani border, tells of a "Jeremiah," a son of King Saul -- but not the more familiar Jeremiah of the Old Testament -- who sired a daughter named "Afghana." Her descendants, the legend maintains, made their way to the Central Asian land that now bears her name. A Jewish connection of more recent and well-documented origin leads just across Afghanistan's western frontier to the Iranian city of Mashhad. It is the traditional home of the "Mashhadi Jews," who were forcibly converted to Shiite Islam after a pogrom in 1839. Like some of their distant Sephardic cousins in Islamic Spain, the Mashhadi Jews behaved in public as faithful Muslims -- even making the pilgrimage to Mecca when they could afford it -- but clung secretly to Judaism at home. Hundreds of them emigrated to the Shiite region around Herat in western Afghanistan over the years, which is today a major stronghold of the anti- Taliban resistance. The U.S. war against terrorism, in short, may be unfolding amid a second war between two lost tribes of Israel.