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To: Thomas M. who wrote (7274)	10/19/2001 12:07:51 PM
From: epsteinbd	Respond to of 23908

During the camp David discussion, however Barak did accept a partition of Jerusalem. The Palestinians just had to stick to their name, El Qods ( the Saint One, mind you) ; and the name Jerusalem is intellectual property . Anyway what's wrong in redesigning borders when/if both parties agree ? The issue of the refugees is thorny though, as morally, Palestinian do have some base here ; while on the other hand, if the Israeli let them in, it means political and soon total suicide as a democracy, a nation, a Jewish homeland, and some other points that concern individual freedom.Si we have an impossible bind here. That means they have to negotiate. Set up a table on some desert land and talk... And both parties know they will eventually do just that. The only problem is that one side says : stop shooting at us first, and the other side suggests that if it were to stop shooting while talking, its leverage will not be as effective. That's all there is to it. Now. Tomorrow is another story.

To: Thomas M. who wrote (7274)	10/19/2001 12:25:47 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 23908

Since all these "red lines" had been crossed or blurred by Barak himself by the time of the Taba talks, bringing them up here is totally irrelevant. Not that it mattered, the Palestinians never found any offer, not even 97% of the territories, worthy of even making a counteroffer. Clinton was going to leave office, Barak was going to be defeated, the clock was ticking, and they were in no hurry to even try to make a deal. About this time rational people concluded that they never wanted to make a deal under the Oslo framework.