To: Poet who wrote (34722 ) 10/21/2001 1:42:33 PM From: briskit Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486 imbued with a sense of social responsibility and their own strength as women. I do not see that as different for me because I am more conservative in some things. I am very interested in those for my daughters, and son btw. My wife and I were just talking about some of that this morning. We talk quite a bit about this and the Kissy threads. She is the designated "liberal," though not on every issue, and I the conservative. She voted for Jessie Jackson. She has volunteered every Tuesday morning at 5:30 for the last 12 years with homeless, so has established her credentials. But I am more liberal than she when it comes to some of the other immediate social responsibilities we are around, especially with money. I employ several people on the edge of homelessness, or with substance issues, etc. I signed for and put one Mexican national in an apartment. He sends money home to his wife and kids. Next month the family is moving here to the apartment. My comment was that with them here I need to pay him more. My wife says it is not my problem, but his decision. Technically yes. But I am also responsible, as a fellow human, that they be able to live and have the basics. I will pay him more. Our daughters are also involved in social responsibilities, volunteering and contributing. My wife has them actually doing stuff with people in need. This kind of direct involvement with people is in the rich tradition of liberalsim that I admire. Some of the other aspects, especially theoretical or academic liberalism without much liberality, practical generosity, I find less useful. It all depends on how it is defined. RE: The Denial of Death, let me know if you start reading it. I would love to read it and talk about it with someone. I can't find many people who have read it, even tho it won a pulitzer I think.