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To: Bilow who wrote (6791)	10/22/2001 3:26:19 PM
From: Selectric II	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Oh. Thanks for explaining. I thought intelligence allowed the materiel to get through. e.g. capture of Enigma during WWII allowing defeat of the Nazi U-boats, allowing the convoys to deliver. p.s. You related to Selhigh? <g>

To: Bilow who wrote (6791)	10/22/2001 3:26:37 PM
From: BigBull	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Disagree in part. The cracking of JN 25 by Rochefort of Naval Sigint was crucial in deciding the Battle of Midway. What if Yamamoto or Nagumo had read a press dispatch saying, "US carrier forces not in port but heading out for operations in the Pacific?"

To: Bilow who wrote (6791)	10/22/2001 8:15:37 PM
From: Snowshoe	Respond to of 281500

>>No, wars have been won and lost based on superior production.<< I would place a higher value on the role of WWII intelligence in the war with Germany. Enigma helped keep the sea lanes open so the material could get to Europe. Without Enigma, I think the war would have lasted another year or two. The Allies would have diverted more resources from the Pacific to the Atlantic, and probably have nuked Germany to inhibit production of the new German jet fighters. By the way, here's an interesting story I stumbled across about the US role in Enigma... Enigma: How Joe Desch, based in Dayton, beat the Nazi code and helped win the war (eight parts) pacificsites.com