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To: Johnny Canuck who wrote (34866)10/24/2001 4:10:23 AM
From: Johnny Canuck  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 68330
 
LMNE CC:

Difficult time in optic area.

rev levels reflect continued cap ex spending slow down. High levels of inventories and excess capacity.

Expect Rev Q4 17 to 19 mil. Have visibility when most don't

Cash up slightly to 19 mil

Focus metro and acess, less severe than rest of telecom market, but high inventories at customers present

Seeing some new orders but at lower ASP's. Seeing some new orders.

Next break through in higher integration of active and passive components

Commodities fiber optic transceivers

MRVC has ASCII development and experience in high integration.

MRVC can not raise additional capital in current market

MRVC rev on upswing but rest of MRVC start ups are not cash flow positive

LMNE 12 mil shares in float

MRVC currently on an upswing trend

Financials:

Charges 3.1 mil
Rev 18.8 mil down 48Y-Y, 54 Q-Q

Technical problem prevent booking of some rev, shows as deferred in statement, so 21 mil range pre-announced not met

one 10 percent customer MONI, 11 percent

last Q MONI at 13 percent, also only 10 percent customer.

US 44 percent, Intl 56 percent

Asia 37 percent
Europe 19 percent

Q2 US 57 percent, Intl 43 percent

EPS loss 1 cent, 2 cent last Q

GM 26.1 percent 0.52 percent less Y-Y, 0.6 less percent Q-Q

Lower volumes and price pressure in Asia most of effect, offset by cost cutting

head count 1070, down 420

Op Ex 7.2 mil down 2 mil Q-Q, 22 percent down

Exp 35.8 per of rev, vers 24 percent Q-Q

OM minus 12.4 percent

cash 93.7 mil , up .6 mil

Positive cash flow 5 mil in Q

Cap Ex down to 3 mil from 12 mil last Q

Paided down debt in Q 3 mil

DSO 90 day up from 50 day Q-Q, due to delayed payment and lower sales, without delay 68 days, 2.4 mil payment delayed

Intl Sales and technical problem caused increase DSO

expect DSO to decrease going forward

Inventory 24.3 mil down 5 mil Q-Q

Additional charge 3.1 mil for lay offs: 1.7 mil for layoffs, 2.4 other

Guidance

Metro and access focus, customer diversity will allow us to gain share in future, but cautious short term

Focus on cash and break even,

Will continue to invest in R+D

Q4 only 17 to 19 mil
EPS loss of 2 cent to break even

Q: Depr for Q3?
A: 20.85 mil

Q: Inventory levels at customers? Transceivers? Passives?
A: Do not know. Inventories still high and rate of use still quite low.

Q: MRVC joint product developments?
A: Broad range. Fiber to home products emphasis as this requires integration

Q: Technical problem with shipment?
A: R+A problem. Will have to replace product. Will re-capture rev in a few Q's.

Q: GM with missed shipments? 500 point drop.
A: Hard to say

Q: GM due to price pressure and lower shipments?
A: Hard to answer, last Q price pressure in Asia caught us by surprise, even though Asia percent revs up, ASP's down so absolute rev down.

Q: 4 mil in deferred rev? techncial issue?
A: No all in Sept Q. Will work through in a few Q's.

Q: Impact of 4 mil deferred caused miss in revised rev guidance?
A: 2 to 3 mil. 1/2 next Q. 1/2 the next.

Q: Technical problem before or after pre-announce?
A: After announcement.

Q: Defer rev in guidance?
A: some of it.

Q: Outsourcing is trend, is LMNE going to this trend
A: Moving production to our Taiwan plan. Re-structuring to a just in time mode.

Q: Lead times?
A: Depends on parts. Some in inventory. Passive can response quickly. Actives, some parts can take 14 to 60 days similar to before slow down.

Q: Turns?
A: Worst than last Q. Below 1 in Q3. About 2 in Q2

Q: What are you doing to re-position company.
A: Adding distributors. Add more sales in China. Looking for new customers. Adding new initiatives on products.

Q: New policy on payables?
A: No. Payables down substantially but no change.

Q: BtB?
A: No comment. Don't disclose.

Q: How does slow down effect product categories?
A: Across the board slow down. Actives and passive slow down the same. Same for volume and ASP's effects.

Q: Different between datacom and telecom?
A: Products in metro and access. Seeing more pressure on long haul. For example DWDM on long haul passive worst versus TDM and metro products.



To: Johnny Canuck who wrote (34866)10/24/2001 3:19:38 PM
From: Logain Ablar  Respond to of 68330
 
Harry:

It was a good day to take some profits in storage. I took the rest of my chips off the table in this sector except zoox. So I flipped from holding long term to selling in the rally. This includes qlgc and emlx, my favorites.

Will wait for a pullback to reenter.

Tim