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To: Elmer who wrote (60177)10/25/2001 1:52:22 PM
From: pgerassiRespond to of 275872
 
Dear Elmer:

Intel never had the lead during Q3. And it still doesn't. P4 was and still is slower than Athlon in most software. SPEC is not the end all and be all of performance. Many of the routines used in SPEC are no longer used because of their limitations and the fact that there are better algorithms and implementations out there now. More than 99% of the applications out there run faster on Athlon than on P4. You define leapfrogging, if only a few applications run faster out of thousands.

In Q4, that small circle of applications just became much smaller. Too small for anyone, but a few diehards like you, to claim P4 is faster or even tied.

Pete



To: Elmer who wrote (60177)10/25/2001 2:10:11 PM
From: jcholewaRespond to of 275872
 
> You define leapfrogging as tieing. I define
> leapfrogging as leapfrogging.

Until SiS645-based motherboards are widely available on the market, it is pretty safe to say that the Athlon XP 1800+ is overall faster than the 2.00GHz Pentium 4. This is, by definition in this market, a leapfrogging.

In a few weeks, the situation will become less certain. Intel will be getting a boost due to the faster chipset (the 645), and AMD will be getting a processor clock frequency boost. I personally have no idea what will happen at that time.