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To: E. Charters who wrote (78869)	10/25/2001 8:57:16 PM
From: d:oug	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116741

Msg from E. Charters: My father[about combat] [never] mistreated a captive" Yes Chatters, its ok to keep one's father image clean, but if done so that you will have to be ignorant of whats real and that which you have decided to place inside whats real with false and imaginary boundaries. It might have been the man or woman with name stone of gray, or you, and if you, then your cut&paste of serious mathematics to show probability using statistics wight cause a deranged happening of sorts to your "all well that has all(s) well(s) put in place of..." yes, but lets seperate this topic from your experience as it was your fathers, not yours as it seem all you have is the hardware of weapons as in facts and figures what they can and not do used by others in combat against others in combat so your father in World war II and i and a few other Vietnam combat veterans those not officers and below noncommissioned officer rank know stuff that was put into text as in "been there done that" the stuff you only experienced in the reading of, the stuff allowed to be placed into mainstream text for reading by mainstream folks as in no description of how cheap hotdogs were made or wars and battles won or deal with ok but back to your "...[never] mistreated a captive" you would need both the math and facts the math is do'able for you i'm sure just takes time for learning but its not usable for you i'm sure as in cost to obtain and payoff as in return in investmint so lets turn to the data, the facts but here is another place its clear you have not gone especially not a been there done that that place you can view "at a distance" using text class 101 and then a reach out & touch mentally 4real the criminally insane as they are most interesting to study to know, to understand even to visit even to experience if one knows how to leave so whats the math number how many people is a sample needed to get one present knowing that they exist in great numbers unnoticed by society your neightboor, your milkman, your friend hidden most of them all are, all their lives even from themselves as certain conditions "call them out" one being "...[about combat] [never] mistreated a captive" as the most repeated expression spoken by the others is "I didn't think you would do something like that." so Chatters, is it 1 in 10 or 100 or 1,000 or someplace between 1 and 1,000 unknowned and unnoticed among us the criminally insane with 99% never tapping their "full potential" as they never get that environment or stimulus to call them out and expose that which is they except for your example ? topic-change Your many posts about usa government, has lots of words but lets keep it simple an example please to help us understand if you understand or your text is just more cut & pastes so you appear to understand, ok now on news today the official governemnt reply to question "We made mistakes, and the reason we have made lots of mistakes was because of what we have to work with is not so good, so you the public who voted us into federal office should not blame us usa politicians for poor results because as i just told you, we are doing the best possible with what we have to work with. Thank You & please re-elect us next voting season." ok Chatters anything missing here do you need another massive cut & paste ? or might you add to the politicial speech above as in a reply in the form of to tell the politician he/she forgot something and that is what Chatters ? need time to think or do a cut & paste sorry times up answer is as following from public to political spokesman in above speech the speech don't blame your governemnt for these mistakes because of what they have to work with as in the terrorist had an easy time & place in the usa to get material equipment and resources etc etc and the terrorist actions are hard by the usa to detect & stop the usa government is not prepared for a terror attack on 9/11 and now and tomorrow BECAUSE of what the government "has to work with" anddddddddddddd what the government "has to work with" isssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss what the government has itself set in place to work with as in the government can not do a good job in responce to terrorism because the government itself PUT INTO PLACE what it needs to work with and it did a poor job this usa government who tells you its not its fault it doing a poor job because and on and on so Chatters, tell us again the proper role of the usa government and keep it simple and real based on today's terrorism which existed in fact and purpose and strong possibility these last ten years what the usa government should have done as in TO WORK WITH ok Chatters tell us what they did and did not and hay for horses, the why did or not topic = tv History Channel on now - Bio-Chemical Terrorism and yes, its an old show maybe made ten years ago ak

To: E. Charters who wrote (78869)	10/26/2001 12:26:32 AM
From: E. Charters	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 116741

A coward dies but once. A brave man many times. As to be brave he has to be a coward first and swallow that. And every man who faces cold death and knows it, is an instant coward from then on. The smart coward who knows it is always cool and on the run and ducking. Drop the rifle, run, get back to camp, shoot in foot, go home and tell the children war stories. I never met a man who went to war who would talk about killing and death. (I never went to war, but I was in one.) What I find works is the mind. Think cool and win. Fight your battle with your mind first. If you think you can find the answer you will. This is the trick, not genius but belief. You fought in boots, shot rifles and flew in planes. You knew where you were. You were there for a grand design. A puzzle put together by a mathematician insane. You came home. I was never there. We were not there. We were here, because you were not all there. I will ask you how to kill as I do not know. Then I will tell you how to live. Or kill, as now I know both. So now you can live and kill. I know you do not want to do the latter. But we have to get some asshole to do the job and you are elected. It's an honour. And you got paid 7.50 a day for the privilege. I did not get one read cent for staying home. And I know I never will. Keep your feet warm. EC<:-}