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To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (133679)	10/26/2001 6:30:17 PM
From: craig crawford	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 164684

>> i was just trying to add to the point that even then he wouldn't have a right to b* about immigration. << i am an american citizen and i have a right to bitch about immigration all i want. just because this country was settled with many immigrants does not mean we should leave the borders completely open to anyone and everyone who wants in.

To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (133679)	10/27/2001 3:19:53 AM
From: craig crawford	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 164684

When will we learn? – part 4 wnd.com The program you support will be carried out by the same kind of people who bombed a pharmaceutical factory in the Sudan, who fired cruise missiles into the terrorist camp that wasn't there in Afghanistan, who saw American troops humiliated in Lebanon and Somalia, who went to war with Iraq to keep oil plentiful but then forcibly prohibited the buying of most Iraqi oil afterward, who were going to stop Panama from being a drug conduit and instead left Panama completely defenseless against the drug trade. ................................................................................................................................. What's overlooked in the support for unleashing the military, the FBI, the CIA, and other crime-fighting or war-making agencies is simply this: The government that's supposed to win the War on Terrorism is the same one that's been waging the War on Drugs, the War on Poverty, the War on Crime, and the War on Illiteracy. Perhaps we should pay more attention to its track record. President Bush said, "We will rid the world of the evil-doers." Perhaps he could start with Washington, D.C. – and if he gets rid of the evil-doers there, he could move on to some other part of America – and if he succeeds there, he could extend the program to the rest of America – and if he succeeds there, he could ask the Canadians if they want our help – and if he succeeds there, he could go on to the Mexicans, the Haitians, the rest of Latin America, and then the Europeans, and so on. But start with the whole world? Doesn't that seem a little pretentious for a government with such a sorry record of failures? If that sounds flippant, I'm sorry, but I get pretty tired of hearing all these promises made to justify taking more of my life away from me – when none of the thousands of promises made already has come even close to being fulfilled. ................................................................................................................................... That's why it makes no sense to entrust government with the job of bringing peace to the world. It can no more do that than Caesar could. And it can no more rid the world of evil-doers or make it "safe for democracy" than it can stamp out drugs or poverty. So long as government is supposed to be the instrument of our protection, we can ask it to seek out, capture, try, and punish the specific people involved in the specific attacks – and hope that it doesn't kill too many innocent bystanders in the process. But think twice – no, think a hundred times – before sending it on a mission to cleanse the world of evil. For our long-term safety, we must quit entrusting our government with world police powers. When will we learn that government is not our salvation?

To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (133679)	10/28/2001 4:08:07 AM
From: craig crawford	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 164684

>> hey, my #1 concern now is that the govt can effectively do anything to you as long as they say "terrorist." am i the only one concerned about this? << most citizens aren't aware or don't care that their government has been steadily eroding their freedoms for years---why should they all of a sudden care now? if you want to regain some of your freedom you can start by calling for an abolishment of the irs.

To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (133679)	10/28/2001 4:11:28 AM
From: craig crawford	Respond to of 164684

10,000 Pakistanis set to join Afghan war timesofindia.com ISLAMABAD: Up to 10,000 armed Pakistani tribesmen set out on Saturday in a 100-truck convoy to cross the border into Afghanistan to join the war against the US, officials said. "Led by Soofi Mohammad, head of Tehreek Nifaz-e-Sharia Mohammadi (movement for enforcement of Islamic Sharia law), the tribesmen are close to the Afghan border in Bajur tribal area," an interior ministry official said in Islamabad. A party spokesman reached at the border area by telephone said that the tribesmen numbered around 10,000. "We will resist if the authorities try to stop us. The jehad (holy war) will start here," said spokesman Qazi Ihsanullah.

To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (133679)	10/28/2001 4:15:28 AM
From: craig crawford	Respond to of 164684

Permanent principles of liberty worldnetdaily.com Our current national travails have provoked much talk of a new spirit of "trusting government." Certainly, it is important and desirable that the citizens of a nation at war have confidence and trust in their government. We should be mindful, however, that this need for trust cuts both ways. War tends necessarily to increase the concentration of power in the federal government, and particularly in the executive branch.