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To: Dale Baker who wrote (5911)	10/27/2001 11:20:52 AM
From: RKHIII	Respond to of 6873

Actually, that was a good speech. I didn't mind a bit. Vigilance should never be confused with vigilante. "Rambo" types often use the terms interchangeably. Fortunately, most of these guys are only shooting their mouths off, and nothing else. Please be safe everyone.

To: Dale Baker who wrote (5911)	10/27/2001 11:41:01 AM
From: DrGrabow	Respond to of 6873

The Anti-terrorist bill of 2001 or why I don't need no stinking freedoms. What freedoms have Americans lost? -- Permits the Attorney General to incarcerate or detain non-citizens based on mere suspicion, and to deny re-admission to the U.S. of non-citizens (including lawful permanent residents) for engaging in speech protected by the First Amendment. -- Minimizes judicial supervision of telephone and Internet surveillance by law enforcement authorities in anti-terrorism investigations AND in routine criminal investigations unrelated to terrorism. -- Expands the ability of the government to conduct secret searches, again in anti-terrorism investigations AND in routine criminal investigations unrelated to terrorism. This means that law enforcement authorities can enter and search an individual’s home without presenting a warrant or in any way informing the subject of the search. -- Gives the Attorney General and the Secretary of State the power to designate domestic groups as terrorist organizations and to block any non-citizen who belongs to them from entering the country. -- Makes the payment of membership dues to political organizations a deportable offense. -- Grants the FBI broad access to sensitive medical, financial, mental health, and educational records about individuals without having to show evidence of a crime and without a court order. -- Will lead to large-scale investigations of American citizens for "intelligence" purposes and use of intelligence authorities to by-pass probable cause requirements in criminal cases. -- Puts the CIA and other intelligence agencies back in the business of spying on Americans by giving the Director of Central Intelligence the authority to identify priority targets for intelligence surveillance in the United States. -- Allows searches of highly personal financial records without notice and without judicial review based on a very low standard that does not require probable cause of a crime or even relevancy to an ongoing terrorism investigation. -- Allows student records to be searched based on a very low standard of relevancy to an investigation. -- Creates a broad new definition of "domestic terrorism" that could target people who engage in acts of political protest and subject them to wiretapping and enhanced penalties. P.S. I would like for an INDEPENDENT group to assess America's freedoms with the rest of nations in the democratic world. The United States MAY still be the freest country in the world but I wonder how much closer we might have come after passing the latest anti-terrorist bill as well as other legislation curbing our civil rights. Does anyone remember the Anti-terrorist bill of 1996 which both the ACLU and the NRA opposed on grounds of being unconstitutional? Are we no longer top dog within the democratic world?