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To: goldsnow who wrote (7737)10/27/2001 3:58:10 PM
From: Yaacov  Respond to of 23908
 
Next time in Europe we need to pay a visit to Gus in his adopted country of Belgium! (that is if he ever gets back alive from Kabul, or Belgiums let him back in! GG)

I really beleieve the time has come for us to drill some thoughts in his head, that is if you agree!



To: goldsnow who wrote (7737)10/28/2001 11:03:53 AM
From: Yaacov  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 23908
 
To:Amein M. Alsuezi who wrote (7758)
From: Yaacov Sunday, Oct 28, 2001 10:57 AM
Respond to of 7763

Greg, this one is an Sleeper! You watch!

Sabh-el-Khair ya Habibi,
Mabsut! mai-khalef! So you call Bin Laden astray???!!!!!!!!!!! A sane man that has gone crazy!(I rahter think he is a beast, but never mind, I respect your version.)

Hitler, Stalin, and Idid Amin are examples. But why all in a sudden all these astraies (and there are thousands of them with Arabic names?? What is they want from us! Do they hate our skin colour, our way of life, what is it these astray dogs want! When I was kid, they used to shoot astray dogs! Maybe time has come for us to do the same!

Selemna ala Sahbek ve akhtek, Osama Bin Laden! LOL!!

Have a nice day

Yaacov



To: goldsnow who wrote (7737)10/29/2001 4:02:14 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Respond to of 23908
 
The real only-democracy-in-the-middle-east:

TRUE FRIENDS

The Turkish Model
America's ally is poised to lead the Muslim world.

BY MELIK KAYLAN
Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:01 a.m. EDT


As American eyes scan eastward across a troubled Islamic horizon of equivocal friends and outright enemies, they should rest their gaze on Turkey, an unfaltering ally, and take heart. Turkey's decades-long fortitude in the service of Western interests and a Pax Americana has garnered meager applause from its allies--and a ton of trouble from its regional rivals. Yet it remains our most dependable resource in the Islamic world, and, as the world's most successful secular Muslim democracy, is set to play perhaps the most critical role of all our allies. We should dance a jig of gratitude for what Turkey has endured for our side up to now, because it points the way to what it could do for us henceforward.

The Turks have outfaced and outlasted all of the last century's devouring political upheavals. Consider how their neighbors--from the Balkans, the Soviet bloc, and in the Middle East--succumbed to the various temptations of fascism, communism, nonalignment, and Islamic fundamentalism, when Turkey did not. The country has not always presented a pretty face during its self-protective exertions, especially in the area of human rights. Encircled by the likes of Russia, Iran, Iraq and Syria, Turkey has perforce maintained a kind of "Bunker Democracy."

How else, one might ask, could Turkey have stayed the course while permitting the North Atlantic Treaty Organization to station anti-Soviet ICBMs within its borders, making it a prime nuclear first-strike target, and letting the U.S. use its airbases against Iraq, once a valuable trading partner? The same grim self-discipline kept the Turks from recent foreign adventures in defense of their ethnic cousins who were enduring slaughter in Bosnia, Azerbaijan and Chechnya.

But now it's time for the Turks, with Western support and encouragement, to come out of their bunker and exert themselves in shaping history outside their borders. That they were among the first allies to volunteer unconditional support for the U.S., offering everything from bases to soldiers, shows that they are willing. Their record shows that they are able. What remains is for the West to help Turkey mobilize its potential.
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