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To: Eric L who wrote (1616)10/27/2001 2:59:55 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 9255
 
Thanks, I missed that 1xRTT is 3G thing.

What he really should talk about is "packet network and billing" with those applications.

And less than 2-3 second ping-pong times, as that HTML 4-10kb overhead is stripped or
cached,etc.. (not to forget the regular 4kb block size)

Btw, has any UK journalists probed the reason for those 20s to 4minute "Wap is Crap" delays???

(thanks for reminding me, I need to send a SMS message to Africa, to make sure the guy
reads his email before monday. Always nice to measure the "ping" time, when I get the receipt
that it is in his phone and it says beep-beep, been about 10 seconds)

Ilmarinen

Thanks, now I really understand why Ollila made some jokes about rounding up or down, what
"millions" or "more than 2 million" really mean in different languages

According to that LAS-CDMA really is roundhype(3.xx) -> 4,0G

(Rounding, truncation is this really simple but still difficult thing in DSP, probably more
useless academic stuff written about it than anything else, except maybe the true
capacity of CDMA??)

Which reminds me of another "Ollila-joke", "to be careful with negative and positive numbers, he too had
problems adding and subtracting them in elementary school". (naah, I think it was "his teacher warned him
for it", but I'm sure he had problems too, everyone has)

Btw,btw, maybe a suitable genius thing to be reminded of:

- signs for positive and negative numbers were invented by the indian mathematician Brahmagupta in
AD 400 (something like that, BC 400??)

- al bin algorithm, of just outside baghdad, suburb called gorithm, distant relative to the inventor
of the internet, invented the algorithm in AD 800.
(after al bin algebra, from the other suburb gebra, had invented algebra)

- the invention of the algebraic use of the zero is still somewhat unknown, to be decided, some sources
say it was in the magnificent university of Timbuktu, in the middle of the desert, around 1200-1300.

- the now, with investor magicians popular math, genius of number theoretician Fibonacci, 1400,
the Fibonacci series, was a result of his early childhood experiences in an arabic elementary
school in Marocco. (he, however returned to italy and spent his life setting up book keeping
practices, the "Ollila joke #2", as the pope had banned the number zero as something which is nothing
and means nothing can only be the fruits of devil, a disruptive competition for simple neurons and
10% flat taxes)

I do not guarantee the accuracies of any names or dates, but something like that.. I can provide
some links if anyone needs them.

Bottom line is negative and positive numbers are so difficult that years are still counted
as -2,-1,+1,+2, missing that difficult zero year (BC or AD??)

Still the most common bug in all software, tough stuff..

Not to forget that nill, different than both null, zero and nothing in the SEC rapporting rules of today??

---

Another one of my favorite math and language question, slightly anti-english:

it is easy to ask:

"how many presidents have USA had before GWB" , assume the answer is 48

Now what is the question giving the answer that GWB is the 49th president??

Anything better than "how many presidents has there been before the president which will
be elected after GWB" or some revisionist grammar (al bin gram??) like
"how manyieth president is GWB"??

Btw, the first documented binary guys were the chinese, while the mayas were smart, they
counted both fngers and toes, to 20, not just 10, and nobody yet knows why the babylonians
had multiplication (clay) tables including trillions, not just millions?? (what were they counting??)

Hmm, division, what is one half divided by a quarter??
(for some the better question is "what is a quarter divided by a half")



To: Eric L who wrote (1616)10/28/2001 1:09:48 AM
From: Puck  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 9255
 
You know AWE is already offering GPRS service in at least a couple markets--I believe Seattle is one of them. I don't see why it should take another year for them to complete the GPRS network overlay. As far as I can tell, its pretty elementary to enable base stations for GPRS. I think GPRS media coverage will increase to a leap when Nokia introduces its N. American GPRS phone by year's end, as is currently the plan.