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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Greg or e who wrote (35791)	10/28/2001 1:17:41 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Poor Greg I don't think it is any of your business. Karen wouldn't interfere for me- unless the circumstances were very unusual. I assume she would wish the same treatment. If she needed assistance she knows she has only to ask me. I am sure she knows this. I trust Karen and I know she trusts me. Not that this is any of your nosy business. Although I guess all the world is you're business when you're out to save everyone. Is that it? Christ complex? Whatever right- it's obviously a big and important deal to you and MEANS something significant although I can't quite figure out what 1.you are one of the nosiest people on SI? 2. you and only you know what TRUE friendship is, and if other people disagree they are WRONG (well, that would fit with you absolutist view of the world) 3. You not only like to cast the first stone, you like to be judge and jury over the people you cast stones on? It almost makes me wish your God was real. I'd pay good money to watch you explain how you, who were obviously so full of sins, cast all those stones anyway.

To: Greg or e who wrote (35791)	10/28/2001 12:50:29 PM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 82486

Rude insulting behavior designed to silence and intimidate someone whom I assumed (mistakenly) was someone you considered a friend. If you think standing up for your friends is optional, and intrusive, then you have a funny concept of friendship. Greg, I consider X a friend. She knows me well enough to realize that I wouldn't expect or want her to intervene to defend me. I respect her as a "big girl" who can take care of herself as she does me. I've inserted myself a couple of times when X was taking heat but only when the attackers went beyond mere trash talk and there was a principle at stake. I do not consider her silence here disloyal. I have made it clear many times that I want nothing to do with trash talk and I particularly don't approve of partisans ganging up and trashing those who don't agree with them regardless of how the tribal lines may be drawn: liberals vs. conservatives, sisters vs. brothers, Republicans vs. Democrats, believers vs. non-believers, whatever. I think what we have had going here was a thread culture war with the sides being the partisans and the discussers. The war is over, IMO. You and I have long argued on opposite sides of the religion issue. I really don't have much interest in religion since it isn't a factor in my life. The only way it affects me is the negative attitude common among the religious in society that the secular are of lesser virtue. So it pleases me no end that you would come to my defense on the grounds of my virtue. I very much appreciate your kind words. Karen