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To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (131545)10/28/2001 8:21:15 PM
From: RocketMan  Respond to of 436258
 
Foreign military sales, the military-industrial complex, and oil are the grease that keeps this vicious circle going, with profits flowing both ways, and excess profits being tapped for whatever the recipient wants, including funding of terrorism. The story about the Carlyle group was just one example of the incestuous relationships. How about the $3B sale of AWACS to Saudi Arabia for another? What little moral grond there is gets eroded quick under the power of money from oil and weapons.



To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (131545)10/28/2001 10:17:33 PM
From: SOROS  Respond to of 436258
 
Greed Is Back

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To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (131545)10/28/2001 10:20:11 PM
From: James F. Hopkins  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 436258
 
Haim did you see this ?
Israel wants Musharraf to stay
PTI
(Washington, October 28)

In a significant development, Israel on Sunday said it
wants Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf to stay
and understands US strategy in view of Washington's
attack on Afghanistan to nab terrorist mastermind
Osama bin Laden.

Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Perez told The
Washington Post and Newsweek in an interview
published on Sunday that he prays for Musharraf.

Perez said he told President George W Bush: "We
understand your strategy. I would have never dreamt
that I would pray for the safety of Musharraf, the
President of Pakistan. That is a most unexpected
experience. But we understand and don't want to
have an agenda of our own."

Referring to his talks with Bush over the Middle east
situation, Perez said the president changed his
demand from "immediate" withdrawal to withdrawal
"as soon as possible" after being told that Israel did
not intend to remain there (indefinitely).

About Israel's problems with getting Palestinian
leader Yasir Arafat to arrest known terrorists, he said,
"We have to get Arafat to do what he says. The
problem is the gap between what he says and what
he does."

Peres said that four people killed Israeli Tourism
Minister Zeevi. "One is in our hands. We told the
Palestinians, get hold of the other three and we want
them extradited for the killing.... Arfat declared he is
going to outlaw them, but the problem with Arafat is
not his declarations but his actions. It is easier to use
microphones than to use weapons."

Peres rejected Barak's current idea of unilateral
separation of Palestinians and Israelis. "This is a
mistake," said Peres. "There is no replacement for an
agreement. Suppose we withdraw. What if the
Palestinians invite the Syrian army to come in? What
are we going to do? In the modern age, I don't
believe a wall can provide security."

"If Arafat wants to keep his legitimacy among
Western countries, he cannot use only microphones.
Bin Laden is a threat to their stability" (too)," said
Perez.

On other issues, Peres said: "Should the next phase
of the war be waged against Iraq? "I think Iraq is on
the list. But whether to fight on one or two fronts is a
professional decision. My advice would be: 'Do first
things first (topple the Taliban first).'"

Directing his ire against Iran he alleged it was the
"centre of terrorism". The Hezbollah chief Hassan
Nasrallah and his deputy, who is on America's most
wanted list, he said, paid a secret visit to Iran two
days ago.

Saudi Arabia: "The Saudis were so self-assured. They
financed bin Laden and al Qaeda and behaved like
the world owed them something. All of a sudden,
things are not so stable and they committed a lot of
msitakes-- trying to snub the United States; refusing
to see British Prime Minister Tony Blair.



To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (131545)10/29/2001 1:46:50 AM
From: 4rthofjuly007  Respond to of 436258
 
You wonder what the Pope will say?

I don't know what you mean.

The Pope is an intermediary of God. His response will be that of God.

Are you critical of the Pope?