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To: Win Smith who wrote (60909)	10/29/2001 3:27:24 PM
From: pgerassi	Respond to of 275872

Dear Smith: Perhaps another result of arrogance. They probably think that since they initially designed the AGP bus, their interpretations are correct for the present and the future. We will get an Intel marketing response to the tune of "It's a feature, not a bug!" "We do not need to do this since it will allow great things in the future!" Privately they will think, "Oh my god, not another problem!" "Perhaps if we ignore it, it will go away!" As to the AGP standard, Pin A2 is TYPEDET#. This line is in the AGP 3.0 specifications: "If TYPEDET# is open, the graphics card is indicating that its capability is limited to AGP3.3V." Thus, A2 can be open. That i845 does not allow a card to be 3.3V is a problem with the chipset/MB. It should not burn up itself or the AGP card, if the card says it needs 3.3V. The MB should either beep code that the AGP card is not a 1.5V AGP Pro 3.0 card or simply shut off immediately. Committing suicide is not an option. And this is in the specs, "2 AGP cards can plug into an AGP3.0-only motherboard but will not be powered and will not function. The motherboard must detect that GC_DET# is not asserted and remove power from VDDQ pins." AGP 3.0 specifications: intel.com Notice, it is Intel's own spec! If they do not follow their own rules, why should anyone else? Pete