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To: marginmike who wrote (131746)	10/29/2001 7:57:49 PM
From: patron_anejo_por_favor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

Yah, but Elvis was pretty much on the downslope after the album Get Happy, and that was released in 1980. There were plenty of good bands from the Southwest in the '80's; Jane's Addiction, the Minutemen, X, the Meat Puppets, hell, even the Gin Blossoms were great before they became famous!

To: marginmike who wrote (131746)	10/29/2001 8:35:22 PM
From: patron_anejo_por_favor	Respond to of 436258

Hmmm, this is bullish, I suppose... arabia.com US commandos train with Israelis to take Pakistan nukes if Musharraf falls Pakistan has at least 24 nuclear warheads that can be delivered by intermediate-range missiles and F-16 airplanes October 29, 2001, 02:41 PM WASHINGTON (AFP) - A special US unit is training with Israeli commandos to take out Pakistan's nuclear weapons in case of a coup against President Pervez Musharraf, the New Yorker magazine reported Monday, citing past and present government officials. US commandos train with Israelis to take Pakistan nukes if Musharraf falls The US force is training in the United States with members of Israel's Unit 262, a commando team that has engaged in behind-the-lines operations including theft and assassinations, according to the New Yorker. The US unit, operating under Pentagon control with CIA assistance, specializes in slipping undetected into foreign countries to find, and if necessary disarm, nuclear weapons, the magazine claims. US sources told the magazine that Pakistan has at least 24 nuclear warheads that can be delivered by intermediate-range missiles and F-16 airplanes. However US intelligence cannot be sure of the precise location of all of the Pakistani warheads, officials said. US regional experts quoted by the magazine say they doubt Musharraf's ability to control the military and Pakistan's nuclear arsenal if there is a coup -- and say dissidents within the military might try to seize a nuclear warhead. One US intelligence officer expressed alarm over the recent questioning in Pakistan of two retired Pakistani nuclear scientists with reported Taliban connections, describing it as "the tip of a very serious iceberg." The incident shows that pro-Taliban sentiment has overcome state loyalty among Pakistani nuclear scientists, thought to be fiercely patriotic. Pakistan's powerful Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI, has also had close ties with the Taliban in the past and might still include many pro-Taliban elements, according to alleged experts interviewed by New Yorker reporter Seymour Hersh. A senior US military official told Hersh he was concerned about an uprising of dissident ISI officers with access to nuclear storage sites. A former US diplomat described the ISI as "a parallel government of its own," and a US intelligence officer said that allowing the ISI to be the US "eyes and ears" in the region is "our biggest mistake."