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To: The Devil Dog who wrote (1721)10/29/2001 9:01:05 PM
From: trustmanic  Respond to of 11633
 
My favorite are: PWI.UN & ERF.UN.
Natural Gas is over $3 now. Should buy NG related trust.
AVN.UN locked in minimum price. The oil men know what they are doing.



To: The Devil Dog who wrote (1721)10/29/2001 9:32:04 PM
From: LLCF  Respond to of 11633
 
There is very good info here... I am not one to hand it out unfortunately, and others chime in, but the trade off is yield vs life of the trust. Theoretically these trusts run out of gas at some point, in return you get hefty divi's. Now, if I remember correctly the favorite trusts here have lifes exceeding 10-12 years AND have payouts that are pretty fair with gas around this price.

DAK



To: The Devil Dog who wrote (1721)10/29/2001 11:02:10 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum  Respond to of 11633
 
Hi Wayne,
Boy this is a change from the Chief's old thread LOL. Much less frenetic. Glad to see you are not one of the 'disappeared' ones :o)

PWI.UN, AVN.UN and COS.UN are my current holdings although there are other good ones.
I used to like NCF.UN (Made good money this year on it but they are not the best at hedging it seems.)

If I might add to LLCF's comment to the trusts running out, many of these Canadian animals seem to want to continue and in many cases acquire new properties (or other producers), financing them with more equity. He's right about this thread. The occasional spats notwithstanding it's pretty informative.

The COS.UN is a play on the oil sands, Message 16562989 while the other two have large gas components in their productions.
PWI.UN prime-west.com
AVN.UN advantageincome.com

regards
Kastel
a cute and cuddly Canadian



To: The Devil Dog who wrote (1721)10/30/2001 12:36:48 AM
From: sPD  Respond to of 11633
 
Here's a series of articles on royalty and income trusts from Stockhouse that you might find useful.

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To: The Devil Dog who wrote (1721)10/30/2001 1:29:35 AM
From: Lorne Larson  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 11633
 
If you want one that's probably the most conservative (and much beloved by the institutions) have a look at Arc Energy (AET.UN). A little pricier than the rest, but with their hedging and policy of salting away a portion of their cash-flow, they are probably a real safe bet to continue their .15/mo for the rest of the year. At a price of $11.21 that's almost a guaranteed 16% yield. Downside is that is likely substantially less upside if energy prices really take off this year.

Also like APF Energy (AY.UN), which is a smaller well-managed trust. Waiting to buy because I think their monthly distribution has yet to take the hit that the rest of them have.

Also like AVN for its hedging. PWI is a mystery to me - looks real good, but the market seems to be saying there are problems. ERF and NCF trade on the U.S. markets and seem to be much more volatile as a result. ERF had a great hedging program that expires at the end of this year. If they haven't replaced it they're going to take a hit. I don't like NCF's management - and there is no doubt in my mind that a new share issuance is on its way. PVE is into heavy oil, and looks like it has put in place a real solid hedging program. I don't understand the dynamics of heavy oil so I've bought less than I would otherwise. SHN is very heavy into NG. I think they're way overvalued right now, and the only reason the price is where it is is because they declare their dividend quarterly rather than monthly, and so haven't had to face the music yet for a reduced dividend.

Presently own AET, AVN, PWI and PVE. Closed off my SHN short position when they announced the recent share issuance.



To: The Devil Dog who wrote (1721)10/30/2001 8:48:09 AM
From: Peter W. Panchyshyn  Respond to of 11633
 
I have just started reading this thread, I started to read from 1100 on.
By any chance are there any key post prior to that that one might think valuable
in understanding strategy and understanding Trusts? If I have to I will start from #1.
knowledge is power ;O) whereas a little knowledge usually just gets one into trouble.

------------ It probably is a good idea to start at the beginning. I think at around the # 700 level the discussion really began to take off. ----------------------------------

Peter, I really enjoy your informative posts, thankyou very much for being so
forthwright in your thoughts and presenting your actions.

----------- Thanks for the feedback. Over the past week or so I have been literally flooded with messages in my inbox here. Much feedback and much more questions. I have read each one but I hope all can understand that I just can't respond to all individually. Its just too much. Much of the questions can be answered by going over the postings here. I know its a lot to sift through but it really is worth it. To those that feel they need some more attention please take the time to participate here. It will help everyone. And again, Thanks. ----------------------------



To: The Devil Dog who wrote (1721)10/30/2001 1:06:20 PM
From: russet  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 11633
 
Oct 29/01,...wealth of info in the charts.

http://170.12.99.3/researchpdf/iEner102901bsow.pdf

Raymond James Energy “Stat of the Week”
Canadian Gas Production Could Be on the Ropes
As U.S. natural gas production has flattened over the past several years, Canadian natural gas supplies
have grown to meet the incremental increases in U.S. demand. Currently, Canada supplies nearly 16%
(10.5 bcf/day) of the natural gas consumed in the U.S., compared with 9% (4.7 bcf/day) just 10 years ago.
While we expect Canada to continue to gain market share in the U.S. over the long term, given untapped
resource potential north of the border, we have recently seen signs that Canadian production could be on the
ropes in the near term. Specifically, the major pipelines exporting gas to the U.S. have begun to show
significant declines in field receipts over the past three months. In fact, we expect that, like the U.S.,
Canadian natural gas production could be peaking for the near term. Further, Canada could have a difficult
time increasing production in 2002 to meet the incremental demand growth of the U.S., lending even more
credence to our 2002 gas price forecast of $3.50.


Field Receipts Point to Peaking Production
In the following graph, we have plotted monthly NOVA and Alliance gas pipeline field receipts versus
Canadian gas well completions. The combined NOVA and Alliance field receipts account for about 85% of
all Canadian gas piped into the U.S., creating a good proxy for overall Canadian gas production.
NOVA & Alliance Field Receipts Vs Gas Wells

Initial observation shows that Canadian gas field receipts are up about 1.0 Bcf/d (8%) this year over last year
in response to strong gas-directed drilling activity, development of a major gas discovery (Lady Fern) and
Alliance’s tie into British Columbia. More importantly, however, gas field receipts have fallen by almost 0.5
bcf/day (4%) in just the last three months, indicating that Canadian production may be peaking.
While the
cause for this decline is not clear, a confluence of events, including 1) natural declines and seasonality in
production, 2) field maintenance and planned production curtailments, and 3) increased utilization of pipeline
systems other than the ones covered above, could be contributing to the apparent peak in production.

Determining how much of the decline is related to any one factor is impossible to tell. Nonetheless, given the
recent declines in gas prices and gas-directed drilling activity, we assume that a significant portion of this gas
loss has come from declines at the wellhead.
Accelerating Decline Rates Are Speeding Up Production Treadmill
Much like the U.S., Canadian decline rates have soared over the past decade as producers primarily drilled
for shallow, prolific reservoirs, which deplete fairly rapidly. With most of the low hanging fruit gone, we
estimate that decline rates in Canada are approaching an average of 25%, with first year initial declines in
the high 40% range. What this means is that any hiccup in gas-directed drilling activity should show up
quickly in the gas production numbers.
Additionally, production in Canada typically peaks in the spring or
early summer, as wells drilled during the winter drilling season are tied into production. Recent indications,
however, are that many E&P companies are scaling back activity levels, especially those projects targeting
natural gas, for the 2001/2002 winter drilling season. Specifically, Apache Corporation (APA/$52.95/ Strong
Buy) indicated that its winter drilling program would be significantly reduced relative to previous years, and
that the company was focusing more resources on crude oil than in prior years. As a result, we may not
even see the production boost from winter drilling that we have seen the past several years. As such, we
would expect the recent and projected weakness in gas-directed drilling activity to show up over the next
several months, making it difficult for Canada to meet the expected growth in U.S. gas consumption in 2002.


Some Canadian Producers Elected to Defer Production During the Third Quarter
In addition to scaling back activity levels, some Canadian producers elected to defer or curtail production
during the weak pricing environment in September and early October. Rather than sell their gas at
depressed prices,
these companies accelerated maintenance schedules and planned outages in the weak
pricing environment with the idea that these deferred volumes could be sold at a higher price in the future.
Furthermore, Alberta Energy Company (AOG/$39.55/Strong Buy) indicated that, in addition to accelerating
planned maintenance, they had actually shut-in approximately 50 MMcf/d of production and continued to
inject significant gas volumes into the company's equity storage in anticipation of higher prices this winter.
While planned curtailments indicate that there may be more productive capacity in Canada than is currently
showing in the field receipts, the resumption of these volumes later this winter will, at best, serve to offset
natural declines, requiring significantly higher activity levels in 2002 to generate the needed production
growth.
Conclusion
The U.S. dependence on Canadian natural gas has grown dramatically over the past decade, as Canada’s
prolific resource base has been tied into the U.S. through numerous pipelines. While Canada remains the
best hope for meeting anticipated growth in U.S. demand for natural gas over the long term, near-term
production looks to be hitting the wall. In conclusion, we have read the recent fall-off in Canadian gas field
receipts as another bullish data point for the gas markets over the next year. Peaking Canadian production,
combined with potentially declining U.S. gas production in the fourth quarter of this year (9/24/01 SOW) and
an anticipated favorable swing in year-to-year gas demand this winter (10/22/01 SOW), leads us to believe
that the gas markets are poised for a strong rebound in 2002. Consequently, we are reiterating our bullish
stance on E&P and Oilservice stocks.