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To: JHP who wrote (131875)	10/30/2001 12:30:00 PM
From: Win-Lose-Draw	Respond to of 436258

just saw on cnbc ticker that there is a 1000 foot mushroom cloud over taliban front lines If the implied question is "did we just nuke someone" the answer is...I don't know. Mushroom clouds aren't an artifact of nucleur bombs, they are an artifact of Really Big bombs.

To: JHP who wrote (131875)	10/30/2001 12:44:30 PM
From: Les H	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 436258

cluster bombs and cave buster bombs going into the taliban trenches

To: JHP who wrote (131875)	10/30/2001 2:45:10 PM
From: Knighty Tin	Respond to of 436258

John, I think it was just a huge Hen of the Woods. <g>

To: JHP who wrote (131875)	10/30/2001 6:55:44 PM
From: James F. Hopkins	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 436258

JHP; Likely was a daisy cutter type bomb It is in fact the poor mans nuke. Using highly volatile fules, including ethylene oxide, proplene oxide , eththylacetlyene, propadiene, propane and butane it produces a explosive rather than incendary effect. It is a two stage aerial munition, stage one generates a higly combustiable cloud that is then detonated. Produces five times the energy of the same weight of TNT. (you can do the same thing with a grain silo, called a dust explosion). The blast overpressure is such that it kills with lethal concussion and is effective in detonating, magnetic, electromagnetic, hydraulic, seismic and infrared antitank and anti-personnel mines, long impulse and duble-impluse fusing. Developed toward the end of the Vietnam war. Some types in service CBU-55/B 500-LB FUEL AIR MUNITION CBU-72/B 500-LB FUEL AIR MUNITION PAVE PAT II 2,500 FUEL AIR MUNITION MAD FAE (MASS AIR DELIVER, FUEL AIR EXPLOSIVE, 12 X 136 LBS OF ETHYLENE OR PROPLENE OXIDE) FAESHED (FUEL AIR EXPLOSIVE, HELICOPTER DELIVERED SLUFAE (SURFACE LAUNCHED UNIT, FULE AIR EXPLOSIVE BLU-82/B 15,000-LB GENREAL PURPOSE BOMB, the famouse Daisy Cutter or Big Blue 82, 12,600-lbs, a cast steel case filled with DBA-22m, aqueous ammonium nitrate, aluminum powder and polystyrene soap as a binder. Generates a blast overpressure in excess of 1,000 pounds per square inch capable of sheering trees and other obstructions at ground level.