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Politics : America Under Siege: The End of Innocence -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (9250)	10/30/2001 5:44:21 PM
From: Qone0	Respond to of 27666

If it has been presented, where, by whom, and if not here, why not here? Usama bin laden presented it himself. Declared war on the US. al-Qaida group spokesman stated the "the storm of planes will not stop" What more do you want? al-Qaida Description Established by Usama Bin Ladin about 1990 to bring together Arabs who fought in Afghanistan against the Soviet invasion. Helped finance, recruit, transport, and train Sunni Islamic extremists for the Afghan resistance. Current goal is to "reestablish the Muslim state" throughout the world. Works with allied Islamic extremist groups to overthrow regimes it deems "non-Islamic" and remove Westerners from Muslim countries. Issued statement under banner of "The World Islamic Front for Jihad Against The Jews and Crusaders" in February 1998, saying it was the duty of all Muslims to kill US citizens, civilian or military, and their allies everywhere. Activities Conducted the bombings in August 1998 of the US Embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, that killed at least 301 persons and injured more than 5,000 others. Claims to have shot down US helicopters and killed US servicemen in Somalia in 1993 and to have conducted three bombings targeted against the US troop presence in Aden, Yemen, in December 1992. Linked to plans for attempted terrorist operations, including the assassination of the Pope during his visit to Manila in late 1994, simultaneous bombings of the US and Israeli Embassies in Manila and other Asian capitals in late 1994, the midair bombing of a dozen US trans-Pacific flights in 1995, and a plan to kill President Clinton during a visit to the Philippines in early 1995. Continues to train, finance, and provide logistic support to terrorist groups that support these goals.

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (9250)	10/30/2001 9:36:26 PM
From: Bill Fischofer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 27666

OK, fine. However, the governments of the U.S., the E.U., Russia, China, India, and Pakistan (to name some of the most directly involved) are all in agreement that there is sufficient evidence to go after OBL and Al Qaeda. Some of this evidence has been made public, and some has not for various reasons. Whether you or I believe there is "evidence" is irrelevant to the present reality. Frankly, given the long history of mistrust between countries like the U.S. and Russia which has now given way to unprecedented cooperation isn't it more likely that there is a compelling common interest at stake than that these various governments are picking on some innocent bystander?