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To: Nick who wrote (41327)	10/31/2001 1:01:26 AM
From: IQBAL LATIF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50167

<Your conspiracy theory about the murder of the Pakistani Christians is just propaganda > My post starts like this Dr Ijaz Ahsan takes on the government ... The whole purpose is to let you know that a lot more people in my country who are very critical of the callous murder, it was not my report once again it was another very well respected Pakistani like Ijaz Mansoor. The problem is that the general propensity to take anything against Paksitan seems to be lot higher than anything for Pakistan. Now when Ike or Mansoor Ijaz raps Pakistan that is OK but when we try to let you know what others are talking that becomes straight away 'my post’… I did not consider that foolish Al Jeezera report to become a part of this thread. I never even considered that report to be worthy of mention; Please correct your post. The very reason that a thread exists on this SI that has only served one purpose to 'flame Pakistan' in last 5 year is one reason I think that propaganda is far more higher on the other side of divide. That from 13th Sept it is not anyone else, but Pakistanis, deciding about most of these actions in close co-operation with US/UK is very gratifying. That in itself speaks volume of the respect US has for my nation, outside propaganda, the facts are turning out to be different. ISI, RAW Mossad are all ugly face of humanity, they play havoc with mankind but your picking up of ISI for ‘entire sin mankind’ surprises me, none of these organisation do heavenly things. To try to blow up the entire Pakistani installation in a master piece plot master minded by RAW and Mossad was only foiled by ISI, that naturally irks many, that how we Pakistanis are not as big a fool as 'Iraqi Saddam' or 'Orsik' and Kuwait, we exactly knew that what we needed to do on 11th Sept, we sided with the world and surprised our enemies with their pants down. That what matters today, it is we not anyone else who is in the business of uprooting an evil that was planted to take that 'evil empire', I called no one a ‘empire evil’ and I had no problems with that ‘empire’ we were doing the bidding for others. Like we are engaged with our northerly neighbour right now.

To: Nick who wrote (41327)	10/31/2001 1:53:34 AM
From: IQBAL LATIF	Respond to of 50167

<Finally, not to inflame you, why can't the Line of Control become the International border? Or is it something the Indians won't consider either? > India has to talk to these Kashmiris, I would consider that borders should be sealed, I doubt India or Pakistan has much of a control on events, but borders should definitely be sealed and after a huge massive crack down by the 600,000 soldiers in Kashmir in a years time India should see if the movement is fanned by across, it will die if it is fanned by Pakistan f the borders are sealed, it will grow if it is indigenous. I don't see that these ‘fundo Muslim’ of Kashmir are not going to be as self destructive as Afghans. That middle ground of ‘cultural literacy’ where nations knows the point of return is made by Ijaz Manoors, Maleeha Lodhis, Benazir Bhuttos and Musharrafs OF NATIONS and an open society, that unfortunately is the weakest link in some of these nations aspiring for freedom, when nations fail to see their weakness they implode. Pakistan was saved by the fact that we had this huge showdown with reality, every time that happens we act responsibly and that was something that was acknowledged by George Fernandes. To know one size realistically is as important as to know one’s strength, THAT rationale is in short supply rather DOES NOT EXIST in Kashmir, it is one area that will definitely implode but I do consider that borders should be sealed and cross border intervention from Pakistan should stop. The very nature of ‘Islam’ much as I disagree with it, to be in continuous flux and continuous struggle needs to be slowly contained only and only by availing opportunities to act side by civilised world until such streaks become permanently embedded in sub-conscious of nations, I see a complete lack of that in Kashmir. I see that we are lucky that we are seeing a huge amount of criticism to ‘Mullahs’ in our local press, Bokhari of India spews same venom of same quality as a Mullah across, the quality of nonsense of a ‘Mullah’ or a 'radical' has same character and venom. Hate has same script all over. Kashmir has to be understood in context of Chechnya and Bosnia where local minorities have erupted; that I hope will be resolved peacefully is the best bet. I don’t think that Pakistan with its problems on hand should have even a inch of more responsibility, it is the locals who wants an independent Kashmir, that is going to be India’s problem not line of ocntrol I even think Pakistan will have to give up their part of held Kashmir.. Today’s friends foster bitterest of tomorrows animosities, we have seen it in the entire spectrum of all struggle movements based in Muslim lands like Hekmatyar-Masood divide in Afghanistan that ravaged the country, Aideed and warlords of Somalia, like war lords in Chechnya, that is most unfortunate of the problems and ‘politically incorrect’ least talked about issues in lands like India, the propensity of struggle for freedom, however incorrect or wrong it may be that is the issue not the LOC.