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To: HG who wrote (8314)10/30/2001 10:45:45 PM
From: tekboy  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
actually its bin not ibn.

no difference, as the link in my previous post described.

Message 16583718

Joshua Micah Marshall tells Explainer: “Arab surnames, as long as I can remember, have always been rendered ‘ibn’ such and such, in English. Now all of a sudden Bin Laden comes along and he's ‘bin,’ not ‘ibn.’ Is he a trendsetter? Is the sense that ‘ibn’ is too difficult and all the Arab names are being dumbed down to ‘bin’ now?” Explainer wishes that were the case, because it would be a better story. The real answer: In colloquial Arabic in the Persian Gulf, the word meaning “son of” is pronounced “bin,” not “ibn,” when it refers to a family name. Hence, the popular Romanization conveys the pronunciation “bin,” and not “ibn.”

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