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To: brian z who wrote (62356)10/31/2001 1:23:22 PM
From: The Duke of URLĀ©  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74651
 
The final conclusion? Don't count on Windows XP to revive the tech sector.

Don't count on Briefing.com to be right about anything except yesterday's close.

:)

Altho, there is an unusually harsh reveiw in InfoWorld re XP.



To: brian z who wrote (62356)10/31/2001 1:41:10 PM
From: David Howe  Respond to of 74651
 
Strange comments in that article (for example):

<< There might be a couple of grandmothers out there, but there certainly aren't enough consumers demanding whiz-cool features to feed the $25 billion annual expenses of the Microsoft Corporation. >>

MSFT had sales in 2001 of $25 billion. I don't know why the author thinks they have "expenses" of $25 billion. Obviously they had expenses of much less than $25 billion because they had net income in 2001 of nearly $8 billion. Maybe he isn't worth listening to?

siliconinvestor.com

If MSFT had net income of $8 billion WITHOUT Windows XP, how is it that this guy thinks they won't cover "expenses" WITH Windows XP.

We are surrounded by morons.

That's just my opinion.

Dave



To: brian z who wrote (62356)10/31/2001 2:09:07 PM
From: Timetobuy  Respond to of 74651
 
Although I also think XP won't be a panacea, the recovering economy might move pc sales up (not to the growth rate of yesteryear). I think the lengthening pc cycle is the reason pc sales won't necessarily rise a lot in the short term.

I take briefing.com with a grain of salt. They're paid to be journalists.



To: brian z who wrote (62356)10/31/2001 8:00:31 PM
From: David Freidenberg  Respond to of 74651
 
"From Briefing.com..."

I'm having trouble finding that article on briefing.com. Would you please post the link?



To: brian z who wrote (62356)11/3/2001 12:15:24 PM
From: brian z  Respond to of 74651
 
From Business Week

NOVEMBER 2, 2001

COMMENTARY
By Amey Stone

Analysts don't see Microsoft's new operating system doing much to lift computer sales. Anecdotal evidence suggests they may be wrong

It's not a happy time for the economy in general. But prospects for the personal computer business are especially dismal. PC sales are down about 20% from this time last year, and most analysts don't expect to see any growth in the coming year.

Take Microsoft (MSFT ). On Oct. 18, just a week before the launch of XP, its most significant operating-system upgrade since Windows 95, the company said it expects unit sales of PCs to be flat or down slightly for its fiscal year ending next June (see BW Online's Special Report on Windows XP). Merrill Lynch analyst Henry Blodget predicted in an Oct. 19 note to clients that computer users wouldn't really start upgrading to XP machines until 2003.

TOO MUCH GLOOM? "PC demand is going to continue to be disappointing," says Barry Jaruzelski, managing partner of Booz Allen's global computers and electronics practice. "There is going to be a minimal upgrade cycle -- as much as people can avoid."

To such gloomy predictions I have one thing to say: Don't underestimate the power of the American consumer. Given the weak economy and the apparent saturation of the U.S. computer market, XP's launch certainly won't lead to the kind of surge in PC sales that Windows 95, or even Windows 98, brought about. But to think it can't inspire even a modest uptick is unduly pessimistic.

The big unknown when it comes to estimating consumer demand for PCs is exactly how many potential buyers are on the fence. Analysts think the number is small, since studies show that most consumers have all the computing power they need or want in their home machines. But based on purely anecdotal evidence, I think lots of people are ready for a new computer about now.

UPGRADES DUE? After all, ample evidence shows that consumers buy, not when they need or can afford something new, but when they want it and can finance it. For example, sales of cars -- a far more expensive purchase -- stayed robust as long as the economy did, even though many analysts predicted that everyone who could possibly need a new car had already bought one in the prior three years. After September 11, auto sales fell off again, but they rebounded when carmakers offered 0% financing.

The last time the PC market saw significant growth was in 1999, when sales jumped over 20%. Sure, those machines may work fine, but many computer owners are conditioned to upgrade every couple of years and are eager for the multimedia and communications features the new models offer.

Stephen Baker, director of research at NPD Intelect, argues that PCs have become akin to consumer durables, like refrigerators. "Manufacturers may be coming out with some neat fridges, but if yours is still running, you may not decide now is the time to go out and buy a new one," he says. But I think PCs are less like fridges than cars -- utilitarian, fun, and even worth bragging about, when you get a great deal on a new model.

SIGNIFICANT UPGRADE. The fact is that computers are a better deal than ever. Because of a decline in component prices (including Intel's top-of-the-line Pentium 4 chip), "we've seen a pretty significant upgrade of the configuration of PCs even at the very lowest end," says Baker.

On Oct. 29, Dell introduced a $599 PC that includes a monitor, six months of Internet access, and, of course, XP. For around $1,000, retailers are offering models with a Pentium 4 chip, a DVD player, and CD-ROM drives that also record. Sure, times are tough, but a brand-new PC with features that increase home-entertainment value may be just what the doctor ordered this Christmas.

The same analysts who predict flat unit sales for PCs think Microsoft's XP is a significant improvement over previous operating systems -- especially in terms of stability. The system not only makes it easier for users to experiment with digital photography and music but it also simplifies communications, things like instant messaging and making phone calls over the Internet.

ADS AND INCENTIVES. Plus, Microsoft is planning to spend $200 million marketing XP -- which should go a long way to stimulate demand. For people on the fence, this gives them a reason to go out and buy. "There is nothing like a lot of promotions, advertising, and giveaways to get people thinking about computers and shopping again," says Baker, who still isn't convinced that they will actually plunk down cash.

Finally, as weak as the economy seems now, a massive amount of stimulus is being injected in the form of tax cuts, interest rate cuts, and rebuilding funds. Analysts expect the economy to rebound in 2002 (optimists say the spring, pessimists the fall), which isn't too far off. Plus, since PC sales were flat in 2000 and then have fallen significantly this year, comparisons going forward will be a lot easier. That will make a bump in sales more striking in percentage terms.

For investors, this isn't a call to rush out and buy technology stocks. But it is reason for some optimism -- especially for stocks like Dell (DELL ), Microsoft (MSFT ), and Intel (INTC ) that are leaders in PC-related businesses. These shares have rebounded sharply from September's lows and aren't cheap, but they would be worth considering if they dip down again.

RAY OF SUNSHINE? Better-than-expected PC sales won't translate into great earnings gains for these companies or their competitors. After all, pricing pressure will hurt margins even if sales growth resumes. And corporate buyers with shrinking IT budgets are a tougher sell than consumers. Many business users have already switched to Windows 2000 operating system, and Microsoft's stricter licensing policy, which many businesses claim makes upgrading more expensive, may discourage them from making the leap to XP. That would be a big loss, since business users make up 60% of the PC market. The waning global economy could also keep a lid on worldwide sales figures.

Yet given all the gloom, if consumers in the U.S. start snapping up new machines at a faster pace than expected, it would be a pleasant surprise for the industry -- and for investors. And given all the negative sentiment for many PC-related stocks, a little bit of good news could go a long way.



To: brian z who wrote (62356)11/3/2001 8:08:27 PM
From: brian z  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74651
 
From FORTUNE

Can Windows XP save the economy? No Way.

Monday, November 12, 2001
By David Kirkpatrick

Windows XP may be an innovative product, but it is not going to pull the PC industry out of its doldrums anytime soon. No software upgrade could solve the kinds of severe problems PC makers are facing. Says Al Gillen, an analyst at International Data Corp.: "We don't expect XP to have any dramatic impact on PC sales."

Sure, down the road XP will be salutary for PC makers and the orbit of industries that depend on them. But in this dismal economy, consumers aren't eager to shell out money for additional technology. Even before Sept. 11, consumer interest in purchasing a new PC was at a four-year low, according to market researcher Odyssey. Says Gateway CEO Ted Waitt: "We're not counting on a whole bunch of people saying, 'Oh, XP's here. I'm going to run out and buy a PC.' " Pradeep Jotwani, who runs Hewlett-Packard's consumer products unit, is similarly restrained: "XP will be good for the industry. The question is when--and your guess is as good as mine." In fact, the best hopes for a consumer sales boost are in Latin America and Asia, where fewer people own PCs.

The boxmakers face a different set of woes in the corporate market. First, CEOs have ordered IT departments to pare spending. In addition, most companies bought furiously in late 1998 and early 1999 to prepare for Y2K. In industry parlance, corporate customers "refresh" their PCs every three years or so, making big company spending unlikely till late 2002. Says Michael Dell: "Business customers have a planned approach to their operating-system transition. They evaluate. They test." In other words, they'll upgrade when they're good and ready.

In this economy, then, XP is likely to prove less of a stimulus than past upgrades like Windows 95. But in the long run XP's many new features, especially its multimedia offerings, should accelerate sales of brand-new products and services. Bill Gates says that to judge the benefits of XP, you have to think of companies other than the usual suspects like HP and Compaq. "Only something like XP will get our industry back to setting records," he says. "But I'm thinking of the industry very broadly--I include memory chips, high-resolution liquid-crystal displays, 802.11 wireless networking systems, and big hard disks." For instance, XP makes it easy to set up instant conferences with audio, video, and document sharing. That's good news for Logitech, which sells many of the videocameras that attach to a PC. And in the long run XP should help chipmakers like Intel, AMD, Micron, and Samsung, which are in dire need of good news. Says Manoj Nadkarni, president of ChipInvestor.com: "Every time Microsoft comes out with a new operating system, it requires more system resources, including faster processors and more memory." Just don't hold your breath. Intel CEO Craig Barrett hesitates when asked when the new software will help his company. "Compared to what?" he asks. "This is so wrapped up in the overall economy it's hard to predict."