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To: James Calladine who wrote (303)	10/31/2001 2:33:31 PM
From: IN_GOD_I_TRUST	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 2926

James, You said, "You are making a big issue about violence in the Koran. My point is that there is plenty of violence in the Bible. Also!" This statement makes sense from a very high level, but with a little digging you would see that is silly. The question one must ask that makes a statement such as yours is, why the violence? What was its purpose? If one source has open-ended offensive violence that could go on forever and ever and ever, and the other has closed-ended, point in time, defensive violence, doesn't that make a big difference? So just saying they both have violence contained within them is too simple and should not be left alone. Investigate the violence and find out its basis. When talking about things of this importance you can't just leave it that, that they both have violence, so of course they're similiar. Thats the approach of someone who really doesn't want to know the truth. Next, you said, "You are coming from a point of view (which you say) is attempting to be objective, but really is one of considering your own Path to be the right one, and criticizing the Muslim tradition, questioning its viability etc." I honestly have a bias of Christianity as the one true belief. I do not deny that. But that does not make me not study Islam objectively, Show me where I have. And if I did, I am sorry. But I will substantiate any one of my statements with fact, from any post, that you point out to me. I have asked people to justify verses straight from the Islamic holy books, ones with violence and human rights issues. No one has defended one of them successfully that precludes the radical view. They have pointed out their point of view, but have not discounted the radical approach to the writings. And my point is that we have to dismiss the radical view as "dead wrong" in considering this a belief structure that can be tolerated in the modern world. If the radical view can be justified through the writings, and saw through the behavior of the main people of the faith like Muhammad, then we must ask if he interpreted the scriptures wrong himself. Then viability comes into the picture... I do not think comparing Christianity to Islam is how we will get to the bottom of this discussion. What needs to be discussed is Islam based on its own merits. God Bless, IGIT