To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (9396 ) 10/31/2001 4:53:46 PM From: MSI Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 27666 Speak for yourself. The American Revolutionaries that I am aware of were not terrorists. Your comparison with the American Revolution is insulting and ignorant. We took over what we perceived to be our homeland. We took it from England - it was a revolution. We did not travel to England to blow things up, for example. We had the courage of our convictions and did not have assassination squads. We did NOT declare jihad, and "the death of all Englishmen" What is it, exactly, that you declare to be "terrorism"? The Boston Tea Party? Now, there's a terrorist incident... Can you imagine if bin Laden and crew had dumped tons of tea from the roof of the World Trade Center? (or more like it, heroin). They certainly would have gotten attention. When Abbie Hoffman threw one-dollar bills on the NYSE he got worldwide publicity. Sorry, these Islamists are true, actual terrorists. Let's not distort the language by comparing them to the american revolutionaries. Now, when you say it is "cleaner to control others with other variables than a fist", sure, you can twist the facts to that view. But that is the same view the beggar on the avenue takes when I give him a dollar. This is the psychology of "victimhood", espoused by those who get paid for complaining, until their benefactors wise up, and offer them a job instead. That beggar, and those countries, would be much better off looking for self-reliant solutions, but those views are blocked by our enemies and politicians, both of whom benefit financially, with arguments such as you espouse, claiming moral relativism for everything, and fault America in particular, for the express purpose of picking our pockets, or shaming us into giving money for some favorite cause.