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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (8484)	11/1/2001 12:19:31 AM
From: MSI	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

>"angry and disillusioned with the American government" Right - blame the U.S., get a cookie. >the U.S. government is actively involved in the trafficking of crack ... for the debasement of the will to rebel and seek redress for grievances among dis-enfranchised populations I'm pretty sure there's corruption in every secret program the CIA and other law-enforcement agencies are able to keep under wraps. Human nature being what it is, the only solution is daylight in every program, on every dollar, project and personnel. But that's a pretty cleverly-worded statement, designed to get the phrase "redress for grievances" in. This is code for "reparations", which has hold of the imagination of greedy "black leaders" who are neither black, nor leaders, but who are hypnotized by billion and trillion-dollar numbers they hope to personally get a percentage of. This is OT, but that's like saying each of us are owed something from "someone else" due to genetic component that I may have in my blood, on some percentage basis; and these are not "leaders", they are opportunists, like Cochran and the other calypso singer, who care only for their own pockets, at the expense of everyone else. In the same way, we are conducting our foreign policy with the same debillitating results. The US is its own worst enemy - free money creates lack of motivation to do anything but insult the US to get more money. In the case of our giving $45 million to the Taliban in July, we paid world-class criminals to slaughter Americans and others. The US has given $5 Trillion in welfare and social programs over the past 30 years. It's the result of misspending those funds that has been the debilitation of millions of people, not the cheap availability of crack cocaine. With education and a strong work ethic, addiction doesn't have much of a chance. Question: when do people start having free will? Is every struggling person considered to be institutionalized and unable to make their own decisions on what do to each day? Tune into MTV, they'll tell you. If that was true all we need do is drop solar-powered TV sets tuned to MTV over in Afghanistan... let the CIA hypnotize them into obedience. (Actually, I think the CIA has gotten into our financial system and created a massive class of pitiful, downtrodden workaholics...LOL!)

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (8484)	11/1/2001 12:40:17 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Hi Ray - I thought the event you are talking about what interesting, but it will not suprise you that I had a different reaction. Imaam Musa, of the Islamic Cultural Center, sort of summed it up for me when he explained to the audience that they were being lied to by Zionist Jews who control all of Western media, and are hiding the true story that it was Israelis who flew the planes into the World Trade Center. In support of that he gave three reasons, but I only remember, two - that Ariel Sharon ("the most bloody of men"), who was supposed to come here on 911, did not. He also repeated the allegation that 4000 Jews worked in the WTC, and how come they hadn't all been killed? Well, darn! How many dead Jews would he find convincing? And there was another but I forgot it. Very impressive. Excuse me while I go throw up. Then there was the guy who told us that we did not need to think for ourselves, we just had to trust in the Koran. I have news for him. God is great, and he ain't. Interesting in the same way that David Duke is interesting. Very out front with their beliefs, you don't have to wonder where they are coming from. Other than that, eh.