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To: greenspirit who wrote (198513)	11/1/2001 10:40:38 AM
From: DMaA	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Flappy has unwittingly revealed the fissure in the union movement. The interests of government union workers are in many ways antithetical to the interests of union workers in the private sector. Government unions is where the growth is, and so where the power is. Probably, in 10 years all there'll be is government union workers, unless the private sector folks wake up.

To: greenspirit who wrote (198513)	11/1/2001 10:46:46 AM
From: Mr. Whist	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

On matters of national security (think Secret Service), privatizing is often not the way to go. We need federal employees, properly hired, properly trained, with proper oversight, and properly paid, to do this most important job. This is best handled by the federal government, rather than putting it out for bids. This has nothing to do with unionization. Nothing.

To: greenspirit who wrote (198513)	11/1/2001 11:07:15 AM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

in a Demolibbers mind they cannot take a leak without federal supervision.

To: greenspirit who wrote (198513)	11/1/2001 1:02:53 PM
From: KLP	Respond to of 769670

Re Government workers and Unions...check out this site...Flappy won't like it...Wonder why the states with the largest voting populations have the highest percentages of union government workers....???? Actually, this site is quite interesting.... bls.gov Union Membership by State Every state in the Middle Atlantic, East North Central, and Pacific divisions had unionization rates of 15.0 percent or more in 2000. In contrast, every state in the East South Central, South Atlantic, or West South Central divisions had union membership rates below 15 percent. (See chart and table 5.) Five states had union membership rates over 20.0 percent in 2000--New York, Hawaii, Alaska, Michigan, and New Jersey. Two states had membership rates below 5.0 percent--North Carolina and South Carolina. Overall, 23 states and the District of Columbia had union membership rates above the U.S. average (13.5 percent), while 27 states had lower rates. California (2.3 million), New York (2.0 million), and Illinois (1.0 million) had the greatest number of union members. More than half (54 percent) of the 16.3 million union members in the U.S. lived in seven states, though these states accounted for only 38 percent of wage and salary employment nationally.